dog puking

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    dog puking

    last night my shih tzu brittan threw up her food, I monitored her through out the night and she continued to probably throw up 10 more times, all foamy, but not much. Each time she threw up, it seemed like such a chore for her little body to get it out. This a.m., she was having another episode, and while she was trying to throw up, she flipped on her back and it almost look like she was convulsing. I immediately called her vet and she is there now. It's been hours and I still haven't gotten an update. She had a "normal" poop this a.m... which I thought maybe she wouldn't.. any thoughts as to what may be going on? I am driving myself nuts waiting.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Give them a call to see how your baby is doing. That is what I do.
    Sending her healing vibes and you comforting vibes.
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    maria, Welcome to idog; I'm sorry to hear your dog is so sick. Is there an update?
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    Her vet did exploratory surgery. Her x- rays showed a "bulge" in her GI tract. I don't know what that meant and he didn't either.. but since she did ingest a small portion of a t-shirt 2 days ago and I have yet to see her throw it up or pass it, we were assuming that is what's causing the obstruction. He said I could wait and see if she passes it but she could get worse and if they would have to go in later, it could be harder to get to retrieve the item.

    He called me a couple hours later and said the good news was they didn't find anything, but that her stomach lining was swollen and inflamed. The bad news was they opened her up for no reason. He gave her some anti-nausea pills. I get to pick her up today. Any thoughts as to why her tummy was/is in such bad shape?

    • Gold Top Dog
    Sheer stress can cause gi bacteria -- she could have gotten pesticide on her paws from grass and licked it off, or it could have had to do with irritation caused BY trying to digest that shirt.  In short, you probably won't know but it could be darned near anything.
     
    And frankly, sometimes stuff like this just happens -- and it's all a judgement call and how much you trust your vet.  I've seen vets talk me into unnecessary procedures just because they "wanted to try out their new laser" or some equally stuipd thing (and no I don't go to him any more!!) -- but on the otherhand there are vets I'd trust if they said "it's a risk to do it now, but if it gets BAD it could get *so* bad it would be dangerous to do later" and I'd believe them.
     
    Building a trust relationship with a vet is tough -- and going thru stuff like this is going to tell YOU how much to trust this vet the next time.  so much of dog guardianship is experience and filtering out what is imperative and what's not ... and man, a lot of times it IS a crapshoot.
     
    Don't beat yourself up -- you made the same decision I probably would have -- it was a calculated educated guess as to whether it was an obstruction and it was a very very likely thing in this case.  You *knew* the dog had eaten fiber and dang, but you can NOT see fiber on an x-ray!!!!  Sometimes the only thing you CAN see is if the intestines are blocked somewhere. 
     
    I had a similar situation earlier this week with a vet I'd trust with my OWN life.  I took Billy up (he's the one who has been SOOOOO sick all summer with IMHA) with some symptoms of what *I* thot were just plain drug side effects (and heaven knows this dog is on bazoodles of meds still).  But Dr. B caught something disturbing that could have pointed to something truly awful and fatal -- and he had another visiting vet there sort of muddying the waters a bit.
     
    BUT -- my vet spent a ton of time the next day doing his OWN research -- calling other vets (and university vets he knew) to find out what the likelihood was of this dire thing and could it Be??  As it turns out -- nope, it wasn't a big deal at all.  And HE CALLED ME to say "Ok -- we're very vey very likely safe ... but this is what I found out". 
     
    My point is -- you watch how the vet operates and that's going to tell you for *next* time how far to trust them. 
     
    If this vet doesn't give you a word of "Gee, I'm sorry but all the signs pointed to this being dire!!" but blows it off -- then I'd be ticked off.  But if the vet discusses it with you and indicates they learned something valuable and generally they treat YOU well and are caring ... well, that's a growing experience with the vet. 
     
    I've seen vets totally MISS obstructions.  I've seen them use it as an excuse to switch food, or blame the owner (WHO ved this dog junk???) or make every wrong guess, and even tho you told the vet the dog ate a tire they won't admit an obstruction because they don't want to deal with it. 
     
    But I always welcome it when a vet discovers they did something not quite right -- because you can tell SO much by how they handle it.
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    Maria, is your dog on heartworm preventative and have she been checked for heartworm? The reason I ask is simple, a dog that is heartworm positive will react this way also where their intestines and organs are swollen too when it is a severe case of heartworms.
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    I picked brittan up yesterday and she was pretty out of it. Her vet realized the surgery was unnessecary but said he'd do it again.. all of the signs pointed to an obstruction. She is on an anti-nausea, 2 pain killers and then an anti-parasite liquid (clava-something) that I will start today. Canned food is her favorite and yesterday when I offered her some, I only got a small reaction.. this morning however, she had a half cup of a bland canned food. Her energy level is up.. so I am feeling better about that. I can't help but feel terrible about opening her up and making her feel this way.

    As far as heartworm goes, she has been on heartworm pills since Spring. She was not checked this spring for them, since I was loyal with her pills last year. I do remember her vet telling me that it takes a while to show up. What are some more of the signs? I'll take anything into consideration.

    thanks for all advice/thoughts
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    Brittan was doing good yesterday, keeping food down, energetic. Today I woke up to her puking again.. around 5:30. I waited to feed her although she seemed hungery (last Fri when this first came about, she would puke and have no appetite what-so-ever) It's also different today because she does seem to be herself. I fed her at 7 and then 1:00 today she puked again.. besides the puking she seems like herself. After she threw up, she was begging for a treat. I talked to her vet and he said to hold all food until tomorrow a.m. He did say he was still unsure as to what exactly was going on. I feel so bad I can't do more for her right now. Does the continuing throwing up mean anything or is a side-effect of the last couple of days?
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    So my dog is still not keeping food down.. her energy level is normal, I'm giving her small amounts of canned food and she continues to throw up.. ANY THOUGHTS?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Maria I would take my dog to another vet asap. Something is NOT right if she continues to toss her cookies like she is doing.
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    I just got off the phone with a vet and he said he's concerned about dehydration. I am bringing her in first thing tomorrow.
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    I just got off the phone with a vet-tech and she said they took more xrays and didn't see "anything major" my vet was in surgery and would call me to discuss my options. I am so upset with worry right now I can't think.
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    He gave me his diagnosis and it seems like he's right. He thinks she has inflammatory bowel disease. I looked it up online and it seems possible. He is going to keep her overnight. She was a little dehydrated. Does anyone know anything on this topic?
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    [linkhttp://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dinfbowel.html]http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dinfbowel.html[/link]
     
    There's some information on the above link.  You might also consider joining the k9kitchen Yahoo group.  There seems to be several people whose dogs have IBD on there and they're managing the disease with dietary changes.
     
    [linkhttp://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/K9Kitchen/]http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/K9Kitchen/[/link]
     
     
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    thank you for the info