Urgent help needed guys! :(

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    Urgent help needed guys! :(

    Hello everyone, I am kinda new to all the dog talk, and not very technically sound so kindly bear with me. I have a doberman pup 5.5 months old, he was a voracious eater, forever hungry and extremely energetic. However about 3 weeks back, he lost his appetite (which was shocking), and I took him down to the vet, we did a CBC (which was normal,platelets were on the lower side but within permissible limits).
    The vet identified tick fever and we administered 3 injections on 3 days continuously followed by a 15 days course of hostacycline along with some vitamin B supplement. My pup recovered, but there was a relapse again after two weeks.
    This time I decided to take my pup to a different vet who has given him a 3 weeks doxycycline along with imizol shots injected.
    So the thing is my dog anyway lost a lot of appetite, all he was having was meat and eggs, that too with a great deal of difficulty and it's been 24 hours since his first imizol shot and it only seems to have worsened his appetite.
    My healthy playful dobe is getting really weak, his hind legs tremble and he is losing weight. My question is, how long before he gets well or even starts showing improvement? Anyone have a similar experience?
    Please help guys! Thanks
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    @SankalpSharma

    Hello everyone, I am kinda new to all the dog talk, and not very technically sound so kindly bear with me. I have a doberman pup 5.5 months old, he was a voracious eater, forever hungry and extremely energetic. However about 3 weeks back, he lost his appetite (which was shocking), and I took him down to the vet, we did a CBC (which was normal,platelets were on the lower side but within permissible limits).

    The vet identified tick fever and we administered 3 injections on 3 days continuously followed by a 15 days course of hostacycline along with some vitamin B supplement. My pup recovered, but there was a relapse again after two weeks.

    This time I decided to take my pup to a different vet who has given him a 3 weeks doxycycline along with imizol shots injected.

    So the thing is my dog anyway lost a lot of appetite, all he was having was meat and eggs, that too with a great deal of difficulty and it's been 24 hours since his first imizol shot and it only seems to have worsened his appetite.

    My healthy playful dobe is getting really weak, his hind legs tremble and he is losing weight. My question is, how long before he gets well or even starts showing improvement? Anyone have a similar experience?

    Please help guys! Thanks

    Doxy and these other antibiotics can wreck havoc with the stomach/digestive system.  The first thing is to notify your vet and ask for a pharmaceutical to stimulate the appeitite -- Cerenia may be used for a few days.  Something like Reglan longer term -- but you truly need to make the vet your first stop in case it is something beyond mere inappetance.

    However, if you are wanting a "natural"  or herbal alternative, this is my own vet's recipe for Slippery Elm Cocktail.  It's not a stomach protectant, but rather helps prepare the gut for food.  It will also heal an ulcer if one has developed (not uncommon with these sorts of drugs).

    When the stomach is 'sore' (and dog stomachs sort of roll the food around so it 'rubs' on an ulcer and can be **very** sore) they don't want to eat.  The recipe is from my holistic vet, (message me if you want her name/address).

    It is ***not*** a stomach protectant (don't use  it as such) and the slippery elm in these doses should not prevent the drugs from absorbing

    NOTE:  don't use slippery elm "tincture" for this ... you really need to use the ground 'bark' (listed as an "herb" usually) to get the full benefit of the tummy help here.  You *can* buy a bottle of capsules with the ground powder in them and empty enough to make 1 teaspoon.  

    Also – look for a liquid aloe that says “gel” or “inner filet”.  But specifically do *not* get an aloe vera that says “whole leaf”.  All of the aloe plant is medicinal but those little spines on the edges are a laxative and you don’t want those in your liquid aloe.  Typically if one brand of aloe juice is way cheaper than others, if you read the label you’ll see “whole leaf” – pass that one by.

    It is drinkable aloe – not aloe formulated or thickened to use on the skin.  If you are looking online go to the ingredients list.  That is where you will find the words like “inner fillet” or “aloe vera gel”  (those are what you want but usually it will use one term or the other).  But if you see the words “whole leaf” pass on it.

    1 -- half a cup of boiling water.

    2 -- add 1 rounded tsp. of ground slippery elm (powder not tincture)

    3 -- let cool totally

    4 -- add 1/8 c. + 2 tablespoons of aloe juice (real close to ¼ c.)

    5 -- add 10 drops of chlorophyll

    6 -- Add 2-3 capsules (open the caps) of acidolpholus

    Once you get it mixed up and whipped smooth, it keeps in the fridge for 3-4 days (after that the acidopholous dies).  

    Use a baby medicine syringe and load it FULL.  Give about half an hour before a meal.  Just put the tip of the syringe behind the canine tooth and hold the mouth loosely closed.  Squirt slowly so they can work their tongue to swallow.

    Most baby medicine syringes are 2 teaspoons.  You need that much even for a small dog.

    You can give this 4-5 times a day if you need to.  No specific dose.  Those baby medicine syringes hold about 2 teaspoons.  Use what helps your dog.  

    Get several of the syringes – I usually load 4-6 of them at night so they’re ready in the morning. It is helpful to keep a big glass of soapy water on your kitchen counter.  Once you’ve given the “cocktail” pull the syringe apart and drop the pieces in that soapy water.  It makes it all far quicker and it makes cleaning them EZ (if the stuff dries on it’s yucky to clean)

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    @calliecritturs

    @SankalpSharma

    Hello everyone, I am kinda new to all the dog talk, and not very technically sound so kindly bear with me. I have a doberman pup 5.5 months old, he was a voracious eater, forever hungry and extremely energetic. However about 3 weeks back, he lost his appetite (which was shocking), and I took him down to the vet, we did a CBC (which was normal,platelets were on the lower side but within permissible limits).

    The vet identified tick fever and we administered 3 injections on 3 days continuously followed by a 15 days course of hostacycline along with some vitamin B supplement. My pup recovered, but there was a relapse again after two weeks.

    This time I decided to take my pup to a different vet who has given him a 3 weeks doxycycline along with imizol shots injected.

    So the thing is my dog anyway lost a lot of appetite, all he was having was meat and eggs, that too with a great deal of difficulty and it's been 24 hours since his first imizol shot and it only seems to have worsened his appetite.

    My healthy playful dobe is getting really weak, his hind legs tremble and he is losing weight. My question is, how long before he gets well or even starts showing improvement? Anyone have a similar experience?

    Please help guys! Thanks

    Doxy and these other antibiotics can wreck havoc with the stomach/digestive system. The first thing is to notify your vet and ask for a pharmaceutical to stimulate the appeitite -- Cerenia may be used for a few days. Something like Reglan longer term -- but you truly need to make the vet your first stop in case it is something beyond mere inappetance.

    However, if you are wanting a "natural" or herbal alternative, this is my own vet's recipe for Slippery Elm Cocktail. It's not a stomach protectant, but rather helps prepare the gut for food. It will also heal an ulcer if one has developed (not uncommon with these sorts of drugs).

    When the stomach is 'sore' (and dog stomachs sort of roll the food around so it 'rubs' on an ulcer and can be **very** sore) they don't want to eat. The recipe is from my holistic vet, (message me if you want her name/address).

    It is ***not*** a stomach protectant (don't use it as such) and the slippery elm in these doses should not prevent the drugs from absorbing

    NOTE: don't use slippery elm "tincture" for this ... you really need to use the ground 'bark' (listed as an "herb" usually) to get the full benefit of the tummy help here. You *can* buy a bottle of capsules with the ground powder in them and empty enough to make 1 teaspoon.

    Also – look for a liquid aloe that says “gel” or “inner filet”. But specifically do *not* get an aloe vera that says “whole leaf”. All of the aloe plant is medicinal but those little spines on the edges are a laxative and you don’t want those in your liquid aloe. Typically if one brand of aloe juice is way cheaper than others, if you read the label you’ll see “whole leaf” – pass that one by.

    It is drinkable aloe – not aloe formulated or thickened to use on the skin. If you are looking online go to the ingredients list. That is where you will find the words like “inner fillet” or “aloe vera gel” (those are what you want but usually it will use one term or the other). But if you see the words “whole leaf” pass on it.

    1 -- half a cup of boiling water.

    2 -- add 1 rounded tsp. of ground slippery elm (powder not tincture)

    3 -- let cool totally

    4 -- add 1/8 c. + 2 tablespoons of aloe juice (real close to ¼ c.)

    5 -- add 10 drops of chlorophyll

    6 -- Add 2-3 capsules (open the caps) of acidolpholus

    Once you get it mixed up and whipped smooth, it keeps in the fridge for 3-4 days (after that the acidopholous dies).

    Use a baby medicine syringe and load it FULL. Give about half an hour before a meal. Just put the tip of the syringe behind the canine tooth and hold the mouth loosely closed. Squirt slowly so they can work their tongue to swallow.

    Most baby medicine syringes are 2 teaspoons. You need that much even for a small dog.

    You can give this 4-5 times a day if you need to. No specific dose. Those baby medicine syringes hold about 2 teaspoons. Use what helps your dog.

    Get several of the syringes – I usually load 4-6 of them at night so they’re ready in the morning. It is helpful to keep a big glass of soapy water on your kitchen counter. Once you’ve given the “cocktail” pull the syringe apart and drop the pieces in that soapy water. It makes it all far quicker and it makes cleaning them EZ (if the stuff dries on it’s yucky to clean)

    Callie thanks so much for taking this one on, great advice I learned a lot myself. I always say when in doubt and if things aren't going well, seek another opinion if you think you need to. I hope Callie's answer helps, please keep us posted.

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    If you feel like your dog is not progressing as it should CALL THE VET.  And honestly if you feel like you are not being heard, then my best advice would be to go to a vet school.   The nearest to you.  Even if it is a few hours away, generally they are much less expensive than a specialist and they will often catch things that the original vet may have missed in diagnosis.