Need help with my Cocker

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    Need help with my Cocker

    Hi everyone  :)  I am new (you can see my post in in the introduction) and I have a cocker spaniel named Phoebe.   I have been "trying" to learn how to groom her and well it has been an experience (not always a positive one).

     I have mostly groomed her while sitting in the floor (joy) and doing the best I can.   She is a sitter any time you remotely get close to the last half of her body and god forbid if you touch her nub!

    So my first step is that I have required a simple table that I will use.  I am going to put rubber on top of it.  I know I need an arm to put the leash hook up in; however, I really need to keep her backend from sitting.  I saw something on amazon that had a front holder and rear holder with a single clip to the arm.  Is this good to use for her?

    The other issue is I never know what kind of clipper to buy, blades, sizes or anything to use on her.  Her hair is not like normal cocker hair.  It matts very easily and is almost cottony (sp?) and very soft.  It does not get extremely long to where a long skirt is necessary but I do love the cocker cut on her because she gets fluffy  Big Smile.   If we don't keep her head shaved down then literally grows an Afro which we laugh at.  She gets all offended if you shave her legs down (really funny).  She has pretty curly hair on the head and ears.

    So I guess I am just trying to figure out what to do with her  lol   I am still learning grooming with her because I wanted to start doing it myself but then I just stand there like "what now".   I have been watching numerous videos and reading and from what I can gather at this point that for her face, back, neck area etc.. I should use a #10 blade?   Its the other parts (like her skirting and legs) I get really confused about.  I shaved her down too low this last time (whoops).

    Thanks!

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    • Gold Top Dog
    Welcome. I have a ESS, close relative of the Cocker. Get a good name brand clipper. Cheap ones won't last. I use an Andes AGC2. Plenty of power. It has a 5FC blade that works well for me, but I don't do any fine work. Pipers hair is course and tough, and frequently dirty and filled with brambles. When she starts looking like a sheep, I shear her.

    Groomers will be along in a bit.

    Doug

    • Gold Top Dog

     Many of your specific questions would be well addressed to a groomers forum.  I have used The Groomers Lounge and found the folks helpful.

     I have bichons and started grooming them myself a bit over 2 years ago - when I reached 5 dogs.

     I am lucky to live in driving distance of Pet Edge, so I went to one of their outlet sales and picked up a table with the arm, high velocity dryer, and clippers.  

      I have used the double loop on one arm, to keep them standing while I work on them, and it is a help.  Just last month I finally spent the money for a second arm, so now have a single loop at the neck, and a single loop around the "waist."  Wonderful!  The thing I found with the double loop, was that the dog can spin.  My dogs are all rescues, some of them got a grooming once a year, not used to it at all.  So the spinning was an issue.  And my boy Willy thinks primping is nonsense and will bite if he can, with the 2 arms and 2 separate loops he can NOT reach my hand.  HOORAY!    Those loops are not expensive so you may want to try with the double and see if it is enough for your Phoebe.  

    At the end, I remove the loop around the 'waist," (whether I am using the double loop, or the 2 arms and 2 loops set up) and run the clippers along that area as you end up with longer hair where the loop sits.  You can TRY to work around and under the loop, I ended up just cutting the loop ha haaa.

     As for which blade to use for what, that is going to be dog specific so I can't help.  A groomer on the bichon forum I am on told me what to get and what to use where.  This is how I do my bichons:

    #10 blade is for paw pads, and sanitary.

    #30 blade with a #2 comb is for the dog's body, legs.  (I use a #4 comb on Willy as I need to go as long as possible between trims to avoid bites lol)

    Pet Edge is THE Place for buying supplies!  

    I have these clippers:   http://www.petedge.com/product/Grooming/Clippers-Blades/Clippers/Andis-AGC-Super-2-Speed-Clipper/pc/190/c/330/sc/397/44077.uts

     This is the comb set- you use combs on #30 blades ONLY! :  http://www.petedge.com/product/Wahl-Stainless-Steel-Attachment-Clipper-Comb-Sets/46343.uts

     For bichons, you must blow dry and brush out the hair so it is straight, before you can use the clippers.  I do not know how you dry a cocker.  This is the dryer I got, LOVE it!   http://www.petedge.com/product/B-Air-Bear-Power-Pet-Grooming-Dryer/46602.uts  WOW just saw the price!  I was at the outlet sale, that was just $60 two years back. The outlet sale is where they sell anything which was returned by a purchaser - it may be still in the original box, unused as my dryer was!  The person just ordered the wrong Bahr dryer (there is a monger one which is a higher power).   Anyway, that dryer has NO heat element, it is forced air only.  Again, you need to learn what the steps are for your breed.

     If you do need a dryer, pay attention to the amps; these products are made for groomer salons, i.e. commercial use.  A home wiring system may or may not be able to support the product.  My home is a 15 amp service, and this dryer is the largest I can safely run, it needs 11.5 amps.  Any higher and I'd be tripping the circuit breaker (or blowing fuses if I had a fuse service in the cellar).

     I have slicker brushes in soft and medium bristles, and in wide and narrow head sizes.  I also use a greyhound comb as well as a poodle comb.  Again, you need to learn what the proper tools are for your breed.  We never use a pin brush on a bichon coat.  In addition I have 3 sizes of scissors plus one pari of curved scissors.  The bichon is a high maintenance coat!  You likely have different needs for the cocker coat.  I am sharing the specifics so you see that it gets involved with this breed, and you will learn what sorts of things to ask about from groomers who know the breed.

     Some of the videos you have may also explain the items you need.  Have you searched on youtube at all for cocker grooming tips?  That is another place to learn what you will need.

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    I have been all over the youtube cocker videos  lol   I hear all different sizes on blades so thats when I am like "ugh which one!!"...   for now I may just have to get the double loop then spring for another arm later on down the road.  She is my ONLY high maintenance dog  - Buster..  he's a wash and go kind of guy  lol

    Thanks for the wonderful advice and I bet our dogs hair might be similar especially on the head with Phoebe ..   I just love it when I do shave the head and it gets all slicked down and you can see her puppy face.  The one thing I adore about cocker's is that no matter how grown up they get - they ALWAYS have a puppy face  lol

    I am going to look on pet edge right now and take your suggestion for the grooming forums.  I bet I can locate something!!   :)