Luna's Tummy Issues... Suggestions?

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    Luna's Tummy Issues... Suggestions?

    Hello, I'm the proud mother of a wonder Siberian Husky Mix named Luna. She's the love of my life and lately she's been having some tummy troubles. Since she was a pup she's had occasional diarrhea but nothing some rice and boiled chicken couldn't fix, but I'm worried that this is something different. I'm not sure about the time spans and days, but I'll do my best to remember. Let's say a "week" ago she didn't want to eat her dinner. My fiance and I know this behavior from her isn't out of the ordinary so we didn't think much of it. It seemed a bit strange to us because a few hours before dinner she had grumbly noises like she was very hungry. We put little bits of deli turkey in her food and eventually she ate. The next morning she ate her breakfast fine, but threw up what looked like two meals worth of a mix partially an not digested food an hour or so later. I thought she had an upset stomach, which since she was a puppy was pretty normal for her. The rest of the day she was fine, drinking, taking treats, and playing... the the bee fiasco happen. We were all outside in the back yard and she dug up a beehive, we all got stung several times. Pulled two stingers out of her and gave her 25mg of benedryl (a tech friend suggested this as she has allergies as well - not mixed with pain killers or anything) and iced her stings. No swelling in the face or anything. She ate her dinner that night no problem. Next day for breakfast (I ran out and got iams canned food thinking she had been fussy because of her kibble - another issue I will get to later - also not a fan of iams but the pet stores weren't open yet only grocery stores) she ate and had normal stools all day, ate dinner fine too. Then the poop issues started happening. Next morning she ate her breakfast mix, but had an accident in the house a mix of solid and diarrhea. Shortly afterwards she had an accident on the deck outside of just diarrhea. Took her on a walk a bit later and more diarrhea. We had no idea what it was from but suspected the benedryl as the culprit because something similar had happened a few months back. Gave her boiled chicken and rice that night for dinner (which she absolutely loved). Other than the diarrhea she was her normal happy self, playing, jumping, and being the crazy little dog she always is. Next morning chix/rice again and the first half of her poop was solid but the next half was pretty mucusy then later on in the day just diarrhea. Chix/rice for dinner. Next morning chix/rice and her poop was just mucus. At this point I'm getting worried because I know a body produces it as a natural coating to get whatevers in there "out" in this case all the chix/rice we've been given her. No dinner that night, just a spoon of low fat no salt cottage cheese. Today we're are 99.99% positive she hasn't pooped all day - the .01% is because we took her to the dog park, and she went behind a hill for a bit and didn't have an eye on her, but checked shortly afterwards and didn't see anything). We have not fed her today at all either because at this point I feel she's already got so much her her that's not coming out. No vomiting, no lethargy, not dragging her butt, drinking well, very playful (ran her little heart out at the park) no unusually behavior aside from the poop issues. She was at the vet no more than a month ago and he gave her a clean bill of health, she's vaccinated for rabies, bordatella, lepto, and distemper, on monthly heart worm preventative, and flea and tick treatment. We've been feeding her EVO Chicken and Turkey small bites for a while now without problem until recently, I noticed she was fussy with it when she used to absolutely love it. Then I found out that Nutura foods was sold to Proctor and Gamble and they already changed some of the ingredients in the food so I thought maybe. We had all intentions to drop off a stool sample at the vet today, but she hasn't pooped. My fiance and I own a pet sitting company and we deal with many different dogs every day - could it be something she caught from one of the other dogs somehow? I'm a vet tech student and of course I had my nose in my text books for the past few days and nothing really seems to match her signs and symptoms. I thought possibly a blockage but she still wants treats and drinks well, her tummy isn't hard to the touch, and no pain or anything when I do palpate her tummy. I considered bloat but she's acting fine, not trying to vomit, drinking plenty water and urinating normally. Thought some sort of intestinal parasite but she's on month treatment that covers that - can something still be caught. Thought colitis but wouldn't I have noticed that early on in the game like when she was a pup? On the last day of actually getting kibble I got natural balance sweet potato and venison I believe instead of the iams. We only put about a table spoon of wet food in. I don't want to rush her off to the vet if not needed, again I really want to stress that all other behavior is normal aside from the poop. She's a hyper active dog and she hasn't slowed down at all the past few days. Any suggestions or natural remedies would helpful, but I'm going to take her the vet by Monday if this isn't resolved - just want some input for over the weekend. I'm more freaked out than she is, she's my baby and I do have have done everything I can for her. Thanks in advance, A very concerned husky mommy (aka Melissa)
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    Also, I apologize for the length of the post - my vet always gives me that "look" because I tend to go on and on with every single detail
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    melbahtoast
    Thought some sort of intestinal parasite but she's on month treatment that covers that - can something still be caught.

    There is no one med that covers all intestinal parasites.

    Have you given her probiotics?

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    No, but that's why we tried the cottage cheese.
    • Gold Top Dog

    melbahtoast
    No, but that's why we tried the cottage cheese.

    Yogurt would be a probiotic but not cheese.  It's the yogurt 'culture' that has the bacteria in it (a probiotic is 'good' bacteria). 

    I honestly think you need a vet visit.  It's *NOT* Benedryl.  IN fact, the proper dog dose of benedryl is 1-2 mg of benedryl/diphenhydramine per pound of body weight - so a 25 pound dog needs one 25 mg tablet/capsule as a *minimum* dose.  If you're talking bee sting you want to give the 2 mg/lb dose (and this three times a day) -- your vet can *and will* exceed that in a heartbeat when they feel it's warranted.

    You tend not to see diarrhea with Benedryl simply because it tends to suck up the moisture in the body so much and then it releases it in the urine.  Benedryl would tend to be harder on the kidneys (long term) than the intestinal tract.

    undigested food -- depends on 'how" undigested you're talking about and how long after feeding -- THAT alone can be a scarey symptom.  You could be more on target with the colitis -- that can go in waves (and it has a lot to do with the peristalsis action of the intestines anyway). 

    Bottom line -- you are in a business where she contacts a lot of other dogs, and the potential for gut bacteria is super high **and** it's communicable.  Just from the standpoint that you dog *can* get something from others but as a responsible business person you don't want to transmit that to others -- a vet visit needs to be your first recourse.  Not being snarky -- just would be MY concern if I were one of your clients if that makes any sense??

    btw -- I almost had a heart attack when I read this -- I've got a Luna who has intermittent tummy issues as well -- but trust me -- if you stood them side by side they wouldn't be confused for each other *smile*

     

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    Thanks for the advice. We had read cottage cheese or yogurt would be a good probiotic so we went with the cottage cheese. Yes we were going off of 5mg for every 5lbs. She's about 30lbs so we only gave her one tablet. I completely understand the transmission of diseases, and she actually never comes in contact with any of our clients dogs, we don't bring her on services, but I thought perhaps something tracked on our shoes? We always dog friendly disinfectant on our hands, arms, and shoes followed by a water spritz as to not ruin any carpets, but I guess there's always a possibility of something transferring. Not being snarky at all, we actually won't do services for our clients if they are contagious with something until it clears up, too high a risk.
    • Gold Top Dog

    After ruling out any health issues with the vet and finding out my older Alaskan husky just has intermittent tummy troubles (just as you described) I swear by Gastralieve by Butler Schien I get it from my vet and when we hear her tummy from across the room we know it's time for a few days of it. Clears everything right up. In fact, she seems to refuse it when she doesn't need it, but it helps us with our intermittent issues with no serious cause!

    Good luck :)

    Karen

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    I've read that huskys tend to have stomach issues and ibs is not "common" but more frequent in that breed. We'll definitely try that once she gets over this stint. Yes that's exactly what we hear tummy growling from across the room. Thanks!
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    melbahtoast
    I've read that huskys tend to have stomach issues and ibs is not "common" but more frequent in that breed.

    And when I saw "husky" I thot "whoa -- probably 60 pounds!"

     

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    Haha it's funny you say that, all her litter mates are about 55-60lbs... she got the "small" end of the stick, even though she wasn't the runt (third born). Not sure what happened, but we still love the big dog in a small dog body!