Help! Doggy Rash, any ideas? (With Pictures)

    • Bronze

    Help! Doggy Rash, any ideas? (With Pictures)

    We got ramses when he was 3 months old. Within the first few weeks he got a really bad rash under his armpits and crawling up his tummy and privates. We've never changed his food. I thought it was because i used human shampoo on him, so for the next couple months we bathed him with medicated shampoo and it slowly disappeared. He is now 7 months old, and last week his feet and nose area were looking pink. Within 2 days they jumped from a level 1 to about a 7! Its all up his paws and legs, on his tummy and privates, mouth, and his chest is looking red too. He has also had diarrhea on and off since we've had him, so to combat this we've had him on rice on and off, which fixes it. This last weekend we also added pumpkin to really kill the diarrhea, which could be the reason for the flare up, but he was already starting to look pink before that, so who knows. What could it be? Sounds like food allergy, but hes been eating the same Canidae since he was a baby. We took him in once for the diarrhea and have been watching him really closely because we know that can be a real problem with dehydration. We also had him taken in for the first rash, the vet did a scrape and it wasnt any bugs. This time around it doesnt seem to itch at all.
    • Gold Top Dog

    No this does NOT sound like food allergy.  Particularly NOT at this age.

     This sounds more to me like contact allergy.  Are his lips red-rimmed?  Does he lick himself a LOT where it's red and sore? 

    Can you tell me where abouts you live?? 

    Do you know if you have any of the following:

    1.  St. Augustine sod

    2.  Poison oak or poison ivy

    3.  Night blooming jasmine

    4.  Wandering jew (there are a TON of varieities -- from hanging baskets common in Northern climates to wild "creepers" in the south -- to big red/purplish plants used as ground cover -- it's virtually everywhere)

    Did the weather change last week?  What in his environment changed last week when he started looking pink.

    Pumpkin would likely not usually be a food allergen -- HOWEVER -- realize that a bit of pumpkin may firm up the stool but even a smidge over that can give them flaming diarreha even WORSE.  It is really good for them but it's quite individual "how much" is good vs. bad.

    It's not "human" shampoo that's the problem.  You likely need to bathe him in something that will cut the oil of whatever the contact allergen is sticking to his skin.  My instant suggestion would be OxyDex or Benzoyl Plus -- some veterinary shampoo with benzoyl peroxide in it (that is NOT hydrogen peroxide -- very very different).    That will help cut the oil and it will also help heal.

    However -- at the same time, once you get him bathed you want to let the shampoo stay on about 5 - 10 minutes (just massaging and keeping it wet and sudsy) -- THEN rinse TONS.

    WARM WATER is critical.  Not hose water outside -- benzoyl peroxide opens the pores -- if you use cool water it will trap soap in the pores and it will make him uber sore.

     RINSE A LONG TIME -- way longer than you'd think.

    THEN -- in the final rinse take a couple of gallons of warm water and add about 25 drops of tea tree oil (the essential oil - -NOT a shampoo or conditioner with tea tree in it -- you want the actual essential oil here).  Shake it and pour it over him massaging it into his skin and coat.  It will help close the pores clean and it will condition the coat while fighting staph infection.    Tea tree is awesome stuff - don't use a lot of it directly on the skin.  Do a light final rinse.

    IN short do this in the tub or shower with a hand-held shower thingy -- getting him rinsed is huge.  (and I'm not just saying "huge" because he's a dane). 

    You will have to try to find what the contact allergen is -- it's likely either something seasonal or something you've brought in on your shoes/slacks.  Think back to when this all first started and see if you can find a commonality in something within the last couple of weeks. 

     "contact" allergy doesn't necessarily mean it's something the dog got into himself.  It *can* be -- OR it can be something you humans brought home on your own shoes.  If you went hiking and then tossed your boots on the floor and then he laid down nearby?  It got on his belly and then he rubbed himself all over to scratch??  That then transferred the oil elsewhere?

    If you have St. Augustine sod outside -- you can track it in on your shoes - the dog doesn't even have to lay ON the allergen itself -- it's spread by 2d or even 3rd or 4th contact. 

    • Bronze
    Wow thanks for all the great advice! He is pink and raw around the mouth, and im almost positive that our grass is St. Augustine X.x I think you could be totally right about the contact allergy. Normally we keep him inside for the most part, but when we left him with our parents this weekend, he was outside the entire time, and it rained! (Poor Baby) Being in wet grass all weekend could really be the culprit. Im not sure what my parents have as far as grass, but he could have sensitive skin. We are def gonna do the bath routine, and keep on eye on his skin. We just got him neutered 2 days ago, so we've been keeping him crated and in the ecollar so he doesn't rip his stitches. Hopefully this confinement period will also help his redness go down, which would also help tell us whether its contact or something else. Ill keep you posted! Here are a few pics for reference...
    • Gold Top Dog

    That definitely looks like contact allergies to me! Poor baby!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Yep contact allergy. 

    ALOE is your friend -- even the drinkable aloe liquid works FINE.  It's a good anti-inflammatory and it will soothe that a lot.  So will chamomile tea used topically.

    • Gold Top Dog

     

    calliecritturs
    Yep contact allergy. 

      Could be a food allergy; they often show up before a dog is a year old. The diarrhea could be a symptom of that too.

    • Gold Top Dog

    e.alexandra.k

     That looks EXACTLY like what Bailey has on his feet ( http://forum.dog.com/forums/t/108747.aspx?PageIndex=1 ;) Only your boy's feet don't look as bad as Bailey's. That is what Bailey's feet started out looking like when it first started, along with between the toes and under his foot between the pads.

    • Gold Top Dog

    To add to all of Callie's wonderful suggestions- wiping him down and rinsing his feet after he's been outside will help him, too.  I use baby wipes to wipe my guy down when the pollen is really bad (including his feet).  A simple damp washcloth will work, too.  Oh, and vacuuming!  Not to say your house isn't clean, just that more frequent vacuuming will get rid of the allergens that are on the carpet, etc.