calliecritturs
Posted : 8/22/2010 6:52:58 PM
Dawnben -- you *do* I hope realioze that there is a HUGE difference between a yeasty ear infection and a **bacterial** ear infection?
Yeast often recurs -- and you have to find out what is **causing** the yeast to start with. Vets will surely hand you tube after tube after tube of Otomax and the like. If there are allergies (which is different than just a floppy eared dogs whose ears traps moisture and therefore then gets yeasty) you have to treat the allergies (and there are many herbal and alternative methods to try ).
But a bacterial infection is **COMPLETELY** different. My first cocker had yeasty ear infections constantly -- he had all sorts of immune-issues as well, but I had him to the vet MANY times and always wound up with just Otomax or something similar.
**I DID TRY** boric acid and the Blue Power Ear solution (which has boric acid in it) and I have, upon occasion since, seen it help some bacterial infections.
But eventually I found a BETTER vet who did a culture and sensitivity -- he had ecoli, pseudomonas and strep ALL in his ears. They figured that the bacteria had been growing for years -- since before I had him. Muffin had really severe allergies -- and it was like clockwork -- when spring/summer allergies would hit here in Florida his ears would get worse.
But the problem is -- when a **bacterial infection** (not just yeast) goes completely undiagnosed it can actually cause the yeasty ear infections on top of it -- and often it's only those that get treated.
The BIGGER problem is -- bacterial infections **DO NOT SMELL** -- there's no head shaking, there's no yeasty discharge or black gunk. But - there can still be severe infection deep in the ear. It can go on undetected until the ear canals themselves ossify and turn to bone.
At that point even antibiotics won't work. Because the blood vessels get kinked off and the antibiotics don't get TO the infection to clear it.
Ultimately -- because I'd had so many bad vets who had never suggested doing an actual analyzed culture - his ears were so severe and the canals so ossified and swollen shut that we had to have the ears removed. Under his ear flaps he just looked like a stuffed toy. No 'ear' at all.
He because 100% healthier then than he'd ever been -- we discovered that the deep-rooted bacterial infections were what had caused MANY of his other problems (including life-long demodex).
Dawn - I'm not the enemy here - you often are so anti-vet sounding but you have to remember as a point of responsibility you have to let people get this diagnosed by a *good* vet. A good vet isn't just going to hand you tube after tube of gunk. And a good vet should offer other solutions like the boric acid or something like Zymox enzymatic cleaner (which is awesome for allergy ears).
Had I simply assumed that because the yeast and smell went away that it was "ok" he would have died soon. Because the bacterial infection will abscess and then rupture and go to the brain. That's a sad and painful way to lose a dog.
There are surely MANY times for helpful hints -- just please don't suggest that someone not use a vet. CHANGE vets? yes. Even seek a good holistic vet (and that can be tricky). But be careful -- because some of your information is a bit flawed. And I've "been there done THAT" with ears with too many dogs. Assuming it's "ok" because you can't smell yeast is dangerous.