Sisters pup "spay" findings

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    Sisters pup "spay" findings

    My sister took the stray terrier pup in to be spayed, they decided to keep the sweet pea and named her Frizbee.

    So the doctor called my sister (who already has a special needs westie) and explained that while she showed absolutely no sign of being spayed prior- no scar tissue, she had no ovaries, tubes, uterus or cervix.  She also has her bladder draining straight into her vagina instead of out through a uretur and down out of the vulva such as in normal females.

    THe poor pup has a huge incision because he went searching around for her reproductive organs, then had to lengthen a uretur and tack it near the end of her vagina/vulva so pee would take the correct route and not cause major inflammation (pee will burn the delicate tissues).

    She is a day out from this surgery and today in a lot of pain, only  peeing dime sized amounts of pee but eating and drinking normally.  I advised sister to call her vet back and see if she can be on some pain meds and what he thinks of the small amount of pee.

    What a bizarre thing!   The area where she came from is known for strays and dogs who randomly breed- even brother sister breedings which happen for generations and then things start to go wrong as in Frizbees case.

    She is completely sweet but now we'll see what long term managment will be for her.

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    Wow what an ordeal. Poop pup
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    Jewlieee
    Poop pup

     

    You said poop! LMAO

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    I hope Frisbee recovers quickly and they can get the pain under control. And, I'm very partial to the pup's name Smile My Frisby is a (former stray) terrier mix, too!

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    shamrockmommy
    So the doctor called my sister (who already has a special needs westie) and explained that while she showed absolutely no sign of being spayed prior- no scar tissue, she had no ovaries, tubes, uterus or cervix. 

    This may sound like a strange question, but are you sure that this dog is genetically a female?  Human males with a genetic abnormality that keeps them from utilizing testosterone can appear externally to be female.  I imagine that the same problem can occur in canines. 

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    I suppose the dog could be a hermaphrodite..but I'd think they'd have seen at least an ovary or a testicle in there..and if they were fishing around in there for that length of time, I think the vet would have noted a testicle floating around

    I've not heard of one that lacks testicles AND ovaries though..

    And what sounds like a lack of a ureter, or at least something very amiss with it, is weird too.

     

    Hope the pup recovers well and  is back to being a normal pup soon. Falafel was adopted and, upon her spay surgery, found to have already been spayed after they fished around for awhile. So she sympathizes.

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    grab01
    I suppose the dog could be a hermaphrodite..but I'd think they'd have seen at least an ovary or a testicle in there

    An hermaphrodite (normal for some species) is "an animal or plant having both male and female reproductive organs", so this dog is definitely not an hermaphrodite.  My guess would be that the dog is genetically male and that the testicles (and penis) failed to develop.    

    I find the issue of sexuality to be a fascinating one!!  More people have some degree of sexual ambiguity than the vast majority of our population realizes (as much as 1.7%). 

    The site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex talks about numerous conditions in humans that result in an individual not being "completely" male or "completely" female.  Especially note the "Intersex conditions and scope" section. 

    "Ironically since the advancements in surgery have made it possible for intersex conditions to be concealed, many people are not aware of how frequently intersex conditions arise in human beings or that they occur at all.  Contemporary social activists, scientists and health practitioners, among others, have begun to revisit the issue, and awareness of the existence of physical sexual variation in human beings is returning."

    "..., according to researcher Eric Vilain at the University of California, Los Angeles, "the biology of gender is far more complicated than XX or XY chromosomes".  Many different criteria have been proposed, and there is little consensus."

    "The prevalence of intersex depends on which definition is used.

    According to the ISNA definition above, 1 percent of live births exhibit some degree of sexual ambiguity.  Between 0.1% and 0.2% of live births are ambiguous enough to become the subject of specialist medical attention, including surgery to disguise their sexual ambiguity.

    According to Fausto-Sterling's definition of intersex, on the other hand, 1.7 percent of human births are intersex."