Can we talk about how cautious we should be?

    • Gold Top Dog

    Can we talk about how cautious we should be?

    I really, really, don't want my new position as Admin to mean that I impose "my way" on the forum, and if any of you ever feel that I am doing that please give me a gentle slap about it, because I assure you it's not intentional.  You have all been mods longer than I was and almost everything I have learned about helping to run *this* forum, with its particular quirks, has come from you guys.

    Something has been weighing on my mind for a while, though, and I'd like to talk about it.

    I am becoming more and more UNconvinced that always erring on the side of caution is the best way to be here....I have been on other forums where it was...but I don't think it is here.   If a member or a thread is going to cause a problem, well, then, it's going to cause a problem.  We should watch such members/threads so that we can catch problems early, yes, but I don't think that prevention is helping us or our image in the eyes of the members.  If we edit or delete in order to prevent a problem, we can't always be sure that a problem was ever going to develop, and it opens us up to criticism from those factions who are already inclined not to respect us.  In addition, aiming to prevent one problem means we have to prevent them ALL or we get accused of favouritism/bias...and one person's idea of a potential problem is going to be wildly different than another's. 

    I am, in particular, very wary of giving the impression that we will remove posts in order to prevent hurt feelings if none were intended in the post.  It's almost impossible to see where the line should be drawn there and I think it could open up a whole host of problems.  If someone's feelings are hurt by a particular post or thread then they know to come to us to speak about it and we can evaluate then whether it should stay or go. 

    One way or another, there isn't a lot that gets by us....one advantage of different time zones, I guess.  If a problem occurs, we'll catch it, or a member will and they will report it, and we'll catch that. 

    I think what I am saying is that I am in favour of just letting things unfold as they will, and dealing with issues that have become problems, not just ones that might become problems.  There are enough of us here, and enough coverage, that I think this is viable.  If nothing else, it's a lot easier to build concrete evidence that a member should be temporarily or permanently removed if we have instances where they have said or done something really bad, rather than instances where we shut them up before s/he got the chance to. 

    When I first joined the forums there were no mods....there was just Jaime, and things trucked along OK most of the time and when they didn't, she came in and kicked some butt.  I have seen the forum shift in member posting styles and get busier, and I do think having us here most of the time is necessary now....but I also think relaxing a little might be a good idea too.

    But then, I have always been an advocate of letting people dig their own graves...those who are going to, always will, and those who aren't will stand back and let them.

    Thoughts?  Telling me I'm an idiot is welcome too...

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    I can't disagree.  Gina felt that I should have not pm'd that gal last nite either.

    I think I'm hypersensitive to a lot of stuff right now and I probably need to let the chips fall where they may.  And even though you've been thinking about this for a bit, I'm certain the little drama last nite brought it to the forefront.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Not really the same as removing or deleting, but I have found that preemptive notes from a mod on say "I wanna breed my dog' threads...."why are purebreed people so snotty"...."why do you dock or crop?" threads is helpful.

    I have seen things get ugly extremely quickly without a Mod saying something inside the first 2-3 posts. I feel that is not really overcautious but preemptive because the forum does have a predictable pattern of behavior whether they like admitting that or not.

    Otherwise? I think allowing things to happen as they will is fine...and then dealing with the fallout if it happens.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Glenda - I know I'm a little hypersensitive right now too....I've definitely been a grouch this week because of the pain I've been in.  And yes, the drama last night reminded me of this, but wasn't the cause.

    Gina....I'm wholeheartedly in favour of stepping into a thread we think might get heated and reminding people to mind their p's and q's...members here definitely forget those often.  I'm sure I do too LOL.   

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    I've got stuff going on in my life that isn't real pleasant, and I know Gina has some major concerns as well.  I'm thinking we all need some good herbal remedy!

    • Gold Top Dog

     Dude....I'll bring the mojitos.  Or Guinness for Gina. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Nah....we need to teach Gina to enjoy.  Let's corrupt her!! Devil

    ETA:  That will help her gain that weight she's wanting to gain for some sick reason.....the munchies might pack a few pounds on our "stick" girl!