This New Forum Is A Downgrade.

Xerxes

ottoluv

.  As it is, the search function on many other boards (as well as the former incarnation of this board) function quite well and can be accessed and used by almost anyone to prevent post redundancy.

Preventing redundancy like people posting the same complaints over and over on a thread that was started in january? I think it's quite clear that some people liked the old better, it's also clear that we are not going back to the old software, so why can't people get over it and move on? I don't see new issues here, just the same thing over and over and over and over..............

 

Exactly!  Had the search function been working, perhaps these last few posts would have never happened.

It has nothing to do with preference of new or old.  It has to do with functionality.

What would happen if your hospital replaced all your scalpels with folding knives?  You'd still be able to perform surgery, and still at a very high level, I imagine.  However the functionality would be completely different.   That's what we're talking about. 

ottoluv

Funny you should mention that ed, we actually replaced scalpels with the "safety" ones several months ago, we all hate them, complained and the administration chose to keep them as studies show there are less injuries from them. We got over it.............

Studies have shown that a lot less people are actively posting here.  Check the numbers. 

you're missing the point. the search function among many other functions that dont work well is PART of the reason why people are posting less. there are a lot more issues than that. this one is just the most mind numbing one, cause i for one cant figure out why they even bothered with putting one in at all...

ottoluv

Even if that was true, you think the search function would fix it? Um, ok....sure LOL

Actually, yes.  I know that a working search function is VITAL to those that use a board for information.  And if you don't believe me then start a poll.  

As it is, I'm out because the thread title isn't "Argue with Ottoluv about her feelings" and we're both off topic.  

I stated my position with reference to the full functionality of this board.  That's where I'm leaving it. 

which is?

ottoluv

so why can't people get over it and move on? I don't see new issues here, just the same thing over and over and over and over..............

This forum has been up for MONTHS and very few issues have been addressed. Until Saturday there wasn't even an acknowledgment that the issues were still being worked on. So it makes sense that they'd be resurrected until they were addressed or acknowledged.  

ottoluv

Maybe we should all be happy that we have a great forum to post on that doesn't charge a membership fee and has a lot of good knowledge to offer. I just don't understand public criticism in this way. IMO there is no reason that any of these complaints have to be aired on a public thread, it's in poor taste.

I think the admin would want to know when the members have problems/complaints about the board. I'm not sure how these public forum work but I believe the # of members and the level of activity has a direct bearing on sites ability to advertise, fund, succeed - or however this internet thingy works or measures itself.  Am I right?  If I am them it is in their best interest to keep its membership high and functioning. 

ottoluv

Why slap in the face the people that are really trying to help make things as good as possible?

I don't see any face slapping going on. 

ottoluv

Maybe we should all be happy that we have a great forum to post on that doesn't charge a membership fee and has a lot of good knowledge to offer. I just don't understand public criticism in this way. IMO there is no reason that any of these complaints have to be aired on a public thread, it's in poor taste. As in most things in life, big changes are mandated by people high up who frequently aren't directly effected. Why slap in the face the people that are really trying to help make things as good as possible?

Let me say again, Admin is aware of the problems and are doing their best to remedy. I'm not the one to give a time line or excuses, but I did want to say, again, they see what everyone has to say.

Feedback is welcome, as always and were sorry for the inconveniences that some of the issues are causing.  Thanks Kelly for your support, we really are doing our best and appreciate the understanding from everyone.

janetmichel3009

which is?

In the 1970's, there was a fast food chain called "Burger Chef."  Some of you may be old enough to remember them.  They were, if memory serves, second in sales and number of locations only to an outfit called "McDonalds."  Burger Chef went from second in the world to out of business because they wouldn't address their problems.

Sure, the problems with this forum are the same ones that were being discussed back in January.  Don't you think that is kind of a problem?  That still, NOTHING has been fixed?  Lacking an adequate search function, members are forced to answer the same questions over and over again.  Many get tired of that and move on to other and better boards.

Many of us remember when this board was the very best dog board around.  Sadly, that isn't the case today.  The functionality of this board isn't even average, and that drives off members. 

It is indisputable that the usage of this board is not what it once was.  If I were running the place, I would want to know why.  I certainly wouldn't be trying to supress negative comments when it is so clear that there is a problem.  That just isn't how things get fixed.  If I were running the place, someone would be accountable for the fact that we are still experiencing the same problems we had 6 months ago. 

Innovative organizations want people to complain.  Innovative organizations encourage it.  Innovative organizations act, react and change.  Meanwhile, we have the same old same old.

I have NO wish to suppress negative comments.  If that's the way you feel, then I want to know about it....if you'd rather share them with me privately, then do that too.  I can then pass the comments on to the other Admins and those who are involved with the technical running of this forum.

ALL I ask is for you to remember that I'm not the one doing the coding.  I am on the side of everyone who wants the bugs fixed and it is part of my job to discuss those concerns with the higher ups - but I can't actually go in and fix the problems.  I am sorry, I wish I could.

ottoluv

Make a complaint and move on, there is no need to repeat it over and over and over again unless of course you just want to insult the admins by implying they don't care or aren't able to fix things. Of course I'm quite certain the admins do want to hear suggestions, but not 1000 times about the same things. I would remind everyone who thinks that this thread is about helpful suggestions is titled "this forum is a downgrade". Not "can we improve the search function or can we improve the photo download function" There is a difference between being helpful and being whiney.

well, we did do the whole "could we change this please" and "how do we do that?"  there were dozens of new threads every day in this section with just that. it didnt really do much... so now the tone of complaints is different. more pushy, if you like.

so someone started this thread out of frustration and out of the same frustration many other members replied. differnt members might have different issues with this forum, and i think this thread actually serves the purpose of seeing which issues are perceived as the most critical. besides that it's only natural to get together and vent your frustration, if you've found an outlet..

personally i am actually NOT a complainer. i DID post my questions if i couldnt find them posted anywhere else. and then i DID move on. but ya know what... six months later, it still sucks... i'm not trying to slap anyone in the face. but i'm human too, and this is frustrating and i gotta vent...

you dont say "move on folks" to the same old same irresponsible breeder-threads...