LC-edited on baiting thread

I responded to that...think I quoted it, too....so I can remove where I quoted it if you haven't already.

 Thanks guys... that guy is a piece of work! LOL

Oh for heavens sakes.  I came awfully close to posting that I had read the responses. He make me so angry that I can't see straight sometimes!  He no more considers Ed an expert on anything than he considers me the Virgin Mary.  But nope, he wasn't baiting.

If a member is asking for clarity in most cases others are thinking the same thing....please stop censoring these people and allow the information to get out there...if there are issues in moderation, which I see there are it needs to be addressed...if nothing is wrong then all of you being transparent and allowing the information out there proves nothing is wrong...don't take anything personal

amstaffy

please stop censoring these people and allow the information to get out there...if there are issues in moderation, which I see there are it needs to be addressed

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I don't see this as him actually wanting clarification.  He's trying to further stir the pot.  And what I edited of the post yesterday is readily available for US to check on since I acted on an abuse report.

Since you're here, Jaime, where do we stand on Lost getting his well deserved vacation?  And on the trainer battles that are being waged in the sigs?  Ixas sig that spreads across the whole page promoting CM, her nail comment......espencer keeps changing his hour by hour it seems just to tick us off, and the ONLY one who seems to have complied with the sig request is Anne.  And, then of course, there is lost with his BLACK box for an avatar and picture of ice in his native american language sig.

Actually, espencer was the first to comply.  I haven't seen any recent posts of his but I assume, since i haven't seen anything in here, that his sig has been Ok since.

No, I believe he's changed it a good many times and had me ready to spit nails in the last several days.  Now it's just "are you a self defeater?" which is offensive to me.  But, perhaps not others.

There is a royal battle going on here regarding us vs them of both sides of the training coin....You all as moderators MUST be open minded and allow the differences to be discussed, there should be no favoritism and honestly in remarks I've seen there are..You all are on the outside, you have no friends, alliances or opinion to any method.

You should only be keying in on behavior towards one another as a person to person regarding rudeness, attacking behavior and vulgarity. No method of training is 100% right or wrong, I so feel like a broken record!

Regarding signatures, send them to me and I will advise

For the record, the comment I edited of Bevolasvegas' was her calling Probe1957 a "master baiter".   

So are we to simply let the trainer wars play out in the sigs?  Ever escalating?

I'm not a purely positive trainer.  I don't think such a creature actually exists.  Even saying eh eh is an aversive.  I have NO problem with other methods, although I would LOVE to see folks start with the least aversive ways, and believe it or not, I have NO problem with CM.  As you have said, Jaime, he has at least brought public awareness to the fact that folks, ya need to do something to train your dogs!  They aren't gonna train themselves.  What I have a problem with is the CM fanATICS.  They are cult like in their devotion and slap the crap out of anyone who doesn't agree with them.  THAT'S my issue.

Glenda, Jaime said send the sig problems to her.  So, my guess is no... the training wars will not be allowed to continue... IN SIGS.  But, the rest of the board, let them go at it as long as they aren't making it personal.

At least that's how i read it. 

Thanks Lani, I must have missed that.  I think my brain froze out clearing snow again today.