orangedog
Posted : 10/15/2008 10:11:13 PM
I'll try my best to give you some Toller info! If I miss any specifics (and I'm sure I will!), let me know, and I'll answer them for you as best I can.
Tollers should be extremely energetic, active, always on the go dogs. My two aren't as energetic as many, but that's not the norm for the breed. My breeder has dogs that are super laid back like Dance and Spring, and she also has dogs who just. never. stop. That being said, mine are incredibly easy to live with as they're complete couch potatoes inside, but as soon as they're out and about, they're ready to go non-stop. They require at least an hour of exercise daily, preferably more (both physical and mental). If that doesn't happen, then like many other high energy breeds, they'll find other ways to use up that energy. Ways that result in destruction, nuisance barking/whining, etc. They're very high drive dogs as well as highly intelligent, relatively easy to train dogs. They aren't as people pleasing as Goldens or Labs. They're very "what's in it for me?" dogs, but they do love to work, and with the right motivation learn things incredibly quickly.
Tollers are very alert dogs. More so than most breeds I've been around. My two don't miss a beat. They can look sound asleep and even if I so much as move my foot they spring up and assume I'm going somewhere fun. They're also said to be more independent than other retrievers, but they still adore their people. They're just not in your face constantly.
Tollers need loads of socializing all through out their life, and especially as puppies. More so than many other breeds. Dance has had tons and is still at times pretty shy and barky if a stranger stares or touches her. I couldn't imagine how she'd be had I not taken her everywhere with me. Gradually we're working through this though and she is getting much better with age. Tollers don't have a "Hi, I just met you and you're my best friend" attitude, which is another point that makes heavy socialization all the more important. Most are pretty reserved with strangers and save their exuberance for close friends and family. They're very devoted to their family.
They have a wide array of whines, yodels, howls, etc. The Toller scream is quite often used when the dog is in anticipation of something, or a state of extreme excitement or anxiety. And no, not all Tollers do scream, but it's something to be aware of. Neither of mine scream really. Spring did a couple times in excitement when I first got her, but never since. Eventhough they're capable of making all sorts of weird noises, that doesn't mean that they're non-stop yap all the time. My girls hardly ever bark, unless startled by something, or see a real reason too. When I ask them to quit, they do immediately.
Health wise, they are very prone to auto-immune disorders, but those can generally be prevented through a limited vaccine protocal. Tollers are extremely prone to vaccine reactions, and many breeders do not allow any vaccines to be given except a single Parvo as puppies and Rabies and Distemper only if required/are at high risk for either disease. They're also prone to hip dysplasia, thyroid conditions, & PRA/CEA. Toller breeders are heavily into health testing their dogs though and ensuring owners follow limited vaccines, so health issues shouldn't be a major concern.
And here's the "Top 10 reasons not to get a Toller" list:
http://www.calibertollers.com/toller/topten.htm
It's not something to steer you away from the breed, but it's full of information any potential Toller owner should be aware of.
I think they're just perfect and I will never not have a Toller in my life. Lol, I lasted just slightly over a year with just one before I decided I needed another! And since you already have a Doberman, I have to say, the two breeds compliment eachother nicely. I love having both breeds in the house. A couple other people I know with Dobermans also either have a Toller, or are looking to get one soon. :)