Akita Inu

    • Gold Top Dog

    Akita Inu

    Hi there,

    So, I have this desire to have an akita, a desire that gives my mother the willies. I've been reading a lot about them lately and just want to know more. I'm attracted to them mostly because I'm after a challenge. My corgi is a darling, but she's been really easy and sometimes I think I take her for granted because she's so good. She's reliable and obedient and she's never really had any problems I've had to tackle. Everything was easy with her. A couple of years ago I became the reluctant mother of a wild hare baby and have since discovered the utter joy of having a relationship with an animal that doesn't really need me. It's unbelievably rewarding to get kisses from my wild little baby who's terrified of strangers and is very sensitive. He's been so hard to keep happy, but so rewarding.

    I've always been drawn to wild animals, which is why I went into zoology instead of animal sciences in agriculture. I love their independence and the challenge of deciphering their language and finding ways to meet their needs. However, wild animals don't make very good pets. I don't want another wild hare, even though I love the one I've got to bits. I want something that will be wonderfully responsive if I can work out the right way to reach them. So what attracts me about akitas is that I feel they are probably pretty responsive if they respect you. There are a lot of dogs with independent streaks, but I guess what I'm after is a dog that's independent, but still chooses to stick by me out of love and respect.

    My chief concerns about akitas are dog aggression and dominance. I'm worried that an akita would be uncontrollable around strange dogs. Would they be sensible with lots of socialisation and strong leadership? Needless to say, my corgi is not real pushy on the dominance side of things. She's never really challenged my authority and is pretty comfortable being a low ranking individual. I believe that the key to being a good leader is being very confident and not giving a dog the opportunity to test you. I've often felt like I was being challenged by a dog, but I've never felt like I've failed to rise to that challenge. I think dogs will test you by acting up before they move to open challenge, and I can generally tell when a dog is testing me and respond by insisting that they come to me and sit by me. My instinct to a dog that doesn't seem convinced of my position is to get their attention and give them a command. Sit is a good one because it's easy and they do it out of habit because I ask them to sit before they get food or dinner from me. So I'm wondering if these tactics are enough to keep an akita in its place? They're big dogs and I wouldn't like to have one challenge me openly and physically, but my feeling is that that shouldn't happen as long as I'm on the ball and pick up any signs that the dog is thinking about challenging me one day. I don't really believe in physical correction and I'm definitely not one to scruff or anything like that. I think dogs should get the message from my body language as long as I'm mighty clear about what it is that I'm thinking.

    I know akitas are not recommended for inexperienced owners, and I'm not technically experienced seeing as I've only had one dog of my own and she's been very easy. But I've been reading about dog behaviour for years and years and I recently completed a degree in animal behaviour. I'm used to seeing patterns in behaviour and deciphering what it means to other animals. Mostly I've worked on wild birds, which aren't the easiest creatures to figure out, especially when they're trying very hard to be inconspicuous. I'm hoping this has set me up for success with domestic animals. Comments?
    • Gold Top Dog
    having an independant dog is not an easy thing
    my sister has a shiba inu that i have helped work with and believe me she is a handful
    now i dont know how close personalities shibas and akitas compare
    are you prepared to have a dog ignore you?
    be sitting 10 feet away from you and not come when you call?
    to have an extremely high hunting drive?
    to possibly not be good with any other dog even ones they are raised with?
    i too love akitas but i would make sure to really know what im getting into before hand
    i have heard they are more family oriented then the shiba
    but be prepared to take classes and alot of work at home and having a dog that could be a very big challenge
    but im sure there are some akita owners on here that will have some awesum advice for u =)
    • Bronze
    The akitas are beautiful dogs, and ours was a male...early socialization was hugely important for establishing the ranking in the household.  And reinforcement of that is needed quite often as they will truly test the limits.  Obedience training must begin early, and you can't be wishy washy about it....They must complete the commands completely and the same each time.  If you let them off, for example on a stay command where they get up too early before your release, you must go right back and repeat the command until they fulfill it, because if you give an inch, they will take a mile.  With them, a rule is a rule, and there can't be special treats and relaxing of the rules, or they perceive it as you no longer truly being in charge, and they will attempt to fulfill the void in leadership themselves.  This doesn't mean harshness, but firmness and unbelievable consistency. 
    As with all breeds there are personality differences, and a good breeder can probably match you up with an animal that is less alpha than others in the litter.  As a novice owner, I would not recommend an older animal or an adoptee, because the Akita tends to be a one person animal in terms of whom they respect and consent to be subservient too.  We found the Akita to be aloof with family members other than myself.  Not necessarily aggressive, but standoffish and certainly not cooperative.  They tend to view small children as inferior and will definitely try to establish themselves above children in the hierarchy.  The odd thing is that they seem to perceive children as your personal property and will be most protective, while at the same time pushing the children around.....Their habit is not to be extremely vocal as many dogs, so you can't necessarily use growling and barking to clue you in to their reactions to other people and animals-the biggest barometer is their posture and the stance of their ears. 
     
    Some have a tendency to run.  They just feel that they have the right to rule the neighborhood they survey.  They will jump fences, can learn to flip gate latches, and the electronic fence systems seem to bother them little- a momentary incovenience and then they are free to roam.  Our neighbor had a female who seemed to have the roaming tendency to a much greater extent than our male, but I am not sure if that is gender related or just personality difference between the dogs.  Our animals did not come from the same litter or breeder.  But both of us did raise them with other dogs-our nieghbors had a female Akita and a male doberman, with the dobe being the senior dog.  We had an Irish Wolfhound and an
    English Springer Spaniel, with the spaniel being the senior dog.  In both cases, they were definitely the pack guards and protectors.  But from day one, we preserved the existing dogs position as pack leaders with subtle cues such as feeding and watering the elder dogs first, letting the elder dogs in or out first, greeting the elder dogs first if we had been out of the house, and we didn't tolerate any sort of aggression toward the older dogs as the pups became older and started to feel their wheaties as it were.  In other words, the humans are the alphas of the pack and all dogs must take direction and pack rank from the alpha. 
     
    Many people will tell you that certain dogs are harder than others, but I think that really depends upon your expectations.  I think that it is merely a case of certain breeds being hardwired genetically to be more people oriented, and therefore easier to train because of their people bond-it is easier for them to be subservient to a human master and want to please the person.  But all dogs respect consistent leadership and authority and seem to need the direction to be happy and well adjusted.  I think you just have to go a little farther with certain breeds to establish the respect thing at the beginning-it isn't automatic.  Good luck
    • Puppy
    I have a akita name Zoe and shes about 8 now and i will have to say that she has been such a great dog..I have always lived with dogs so I was used to them. I know some akitas get bad reps but you just have to treat them like every other dog. Get them around other people, kids and dogs . The way I looked at it was , Zoe is a dog yeah a akita but again just a dog. All the books say that they are aggressive towards other dogs  and high prey drive and they are dominant..I must have gotten lucky because zoe loves people( except some people she does not walk up to, I think she can sense a bad vibe with them). She loves giving kisses to just about anyone. She loves cats and a iguana, she has helped raise other people puppies( like showing them how to behave ) She loves going to the dog park to meet other dogs.i can leave the front door open and she would not run away because all a akita wants to do is be with its owner..Dont get me wrong I had to do my part as a dog owner to get her to how she is now..if you do get a akita I hope you will enjoy having such a loving breed.....oh yeah they also like to talk( not barking)  more like woo-wooo and some othe noises..I will try to download some pics of zoe on the couch and zoe playing with Mai , my parents akita\pit\shepherd ....



    • Gold Top Dog
    They certainly are beautiful animals. I'm quite a fan of spitz breeds, but living in Australia, don't really want one with a lot of long hair that's going to get hot and bothered. I think most dogs cope with the heat all right if they have somewhere cool to hang out. Penny doesn't much like it when it gets really hot, but I think her double coat serves as an insulater and she doesn't get overheated. I'm hoping an akita's double coat would be the same. I'm okay with a lot of shedding, but not okay with long hair.

    I've heard an awful lot of akita owners saying their akitas are not like the monsters people will tell you akitas are. I guess that's why I'm entertaining the idea of having one. I'm quite comfortable with the idea of an independent dog, mostly because I'm not necessarily after a dog that will cater to my every whim or desire just because I'm the one that feeds and plays with them. I'm after a deeper relationship, one of mutual respect and love. I have quite a deep relationship with my corgi which has come out of spending a lot of time with her in all circumstances. She's taught me that training a dog is not something you just do with a puppy, but an ongoing experience that doesn't stop. It's great to have a canine buddy to hang out with. Dogs are so smart and responsive.

    I have actually met a few shibas and my mother had a shiba cross for a while. Unfortunately, that was an unforseeable disaster. His mum was lovely and his dad was lovely, but somehow he was a little bundle of aggression in every form. The breeder was a lovely lady devoted to her dogs and also involved in fostering and rescuing dogs. Her shibas ranged in temperment, but were mostly friendly. They're beautiful dogs and full of mischief. I've always been fond of shibas and have visited this breeder a few times to admire her dogs. Certainly they can be naughty and seem to delight in embarressing their mum, but I'd have a shiba.

    Anyway, I think the advice to get a puppy and not an adult is good advice. Unfortunately, with Penny at 10 years old now, I don't think our family necessarily needs a large puppy at this stage. I would rather Penny's golden years were free of bothersome pups that are going to at some point want to demote her. I don't really want to put her through that again. She's just had it out with my mother's boxer/kelpie cross and they're getting on fine now, but I picture an ongoing struggle between her and a large, dominant youngster and I just shudder. She's been good to me and I don't want to make this last part of her life stressful for her. Also, she has a bad back and I'd be a little worried about her with a big, bouncy puppy. I guess I'll be thinking hard about what I'm going to do next dogwise. I think Akitas are still high on my list, though.

    • Puppy

    I don't know if you have gotten an Akita yet or not. I believe the first and one of the most important step is to buy an Akita from a reputable breeder who is as concerned about physical traits as well as temperment. Interview the breeders, visit their home, check out the dogs lineage. Talk to others who have purcahsed Akitas from the same line. If you have done this, tons of socialization with people, animals, other dogs, other places will be key. You will need to maintain control of your dog at all times. Since Akitas are very powerful breeds, this control will come from his love, respect and loyalty to you. My male Akita bonded easily with a Yorkie. However, I think the rabbit would have been a challenge for us. All in all, if my situation were different, I would definately have another Akita.