Let's talk English/Mini Bull Terriers!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Let's talk English/Mini Bull Terriers!

    Well,  I have the greatest landladyin the world. She's happy to give me rent free time to be home with my German Shepherd pup so he can be thoroughly socialized in this formative time (what an angel she is!) However, I do eventually have to get a J-O-B. When I do return to work, T-Bone is gonna be a lonely fella. I would also just like for him to have a buddy. In 6months to a year, I am considering adding a Doberman or Bull Terrier to the family. There's already a dobe thread running, so I thought I'd just ask about BTs. I'd prefer a mini, personally. I'd also like to adopt an adult. I've heard this dog can be very DA and difficult to train. Anyone had first hand experience? I have known a few BTs that were absolute dolls, even with other dogs. Tell me some pros and cons! Thanks guys =)

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    You know... I love the BTs. I haven't owned one, but a number of folks in my training club think my Rosco is an Am Staff/BT cross because of his muzzle shape (Roman nose) and his movement, so I may have some BT in my house after all. I've also worked with BTs and Mini BTs in shelters.

    I put the BTs in the same category as owning a pit, or other bully breed in terms of DA and stubbornness/terrier traits. Which means expecting them to show some level of DA and counting yourself lucky if your dog doesn't happen to show that characteristic. Lots of training required and in the case of the DA, a lifetime of management.

    Of the BTs I've met, the common characteristics were: goofiness, play/ball drive, and very food motivated. I personally think this makes them super-easy to train. A mini that wasn’t DA would be awesome to run in agility.

    In terms of planning what will be good match for T-Bone, I'd see what he's like as an adult and pick a dog that will mesh well with that, maybe adopting an adult he gets along with. I am only saying that because you've mentioned T-Bone being on the more assertive side of the temperament spectrum, and sometimes that doesn't mesh well with an equally assertive bully breed type. That being said, Rosco is a cow 95% of the time and Luna is a bossy, sassy Aussie and they get along really well as house mate.

    JMO though and curious to see what others add.

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     Yep, I have trained one.  Not to a hugely high standard, as my ex and I split up and he kept the dog, so all my hard work went to waste.... 

    He went to a puppy class and was socialised to heck and back, and the whole time I knew him, he was never DA at all.  If anything, other dogs could bite and snap at his face and he would just stand there and wag his tail furiously.  High pain threshold!!  He was a friendly dog, and it would take A LOT to get him riled.  That said, we took great care to keep him out of dodgy situations, because if a dog ever DID succeed in pi**ing him off, he could have killed it - he was THAT powerful.

    He wasn't all that handler sensitive (compared to say, a collie or a GSD) and he had a high pain threshold, which meant that punishment based methods were doomed to fail.  But he learned FAST with a clicker.  No way was that dawg stoopid.

    Must go and bathe William but can post more later if you like.

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    T-Bone is actually submissive with other dogs, oddly enough. However, I definitely agree this might change as he matures. I figured I should wait until he's at least 9 or 10 months or a year. I'd feel awful for everyone involved if they didn't get along =( (I'd pick a female, also, to minimize the odds)

     

    If you adopt an adult mini bull, who ISN'T DA, with continuous socilization can you expect it to keep that trait?

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    Beejou
     I'd feel awful for everyone involved if they didn't get along =( (I'd pick a female, also, to minimize the odds)

    Exactly, it's about setting them up for success.

     

    Beejou

     If you adopt an adult mini bull, who ISN'T DA, with continuous socilization can you expect it to keep that trait?


    I would say yes to this. I would advise to adopt a dog over the age of 2, and you take the "what happens at maturity" part out of the equation. Again, improving your odd.