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Doggy XANAX?????

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Doggy XANAX?????
  • So, I have , well my wife has, a 12 week old weiner dog. I love it to death and can tell it will be the first dog I have ever been very attached to.  With that being said, our relationship is off to a rocky start. Jezzabelle,thats the weiner dogs name, wakes me up at 3 am last night throwing up whinning and acting very strange. I wake up my wife and we begin trying to figure out whats ailing the pup. Jezz seems very disoriented, is shaking uncontrollably and has thrown up several times. My wife informs me that the bug man made his quarterly visit earlier that day and fears Jezz has been poisoned. OH *removed by moderator*!!!!!!! So I call the local Vet and inform him of the emergency, I get dressed and meet him at his office. At this point Jezzs' conditioned has not improved................... So, after through examannation the Doc asks me what transpired for the pup over the last 24 hrs. ....Huh? Ummmmmmm.......Well....... Come again??? What did the dog do today he asks. Hell Doc, I dunno, ask the dog!!!!  Ok come to think of it, she peed on the floor, licked her butt, bit Dakota a coupla times, (Dokato is our 3 year old Cocker who thinks Jezz is a squeeky toy) and ate some food. Then was put in the laundry room for the night(hence the peeing on the floor). Then the Doc asks me if this is the dogs normal routine........ Huh again????? What do you mean kind Sir? I didnt know a dog had a 'ROUTINE" much less a 12 week old pup. Yes they do I was informed, So I ponder a moment then realize that NO!......this wasnt my pups normal routine....she has been sleeping with me and my wife. AHHAAA he exclaims, there is your problem!!!!!!! Huh????? So to sum it up......I took Jezz to the Vet at 3 am, sure she was dieing from being poisoned and I am told that my dog is "suffering" from.......................... Seperation Anxiety!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTH??? REALLY??????......Oh yes....and he proceeds to give Jezz  a shot of doggy downers and tells me she is just fine!!!!!!! So my question is, HAS ANY ONE EVER HEARD OF A DOF HAVING SEPERATION ANXIETY BEFORE? Or is Jezz a special needs dog that I may need regular therapy????

  • Wow, quite the story with loads of emotion.

    Did you mention to the vet that the lawn had been fertilized and that you were concerned about poisoning.  That's why he asked what the dog did that day - to find out where it had been, what it could have been exposed to, etc.  If you didn't mention the lawn being fertilized, then his conclusion may have been in error, but maybe not.

    Yes, we have plenty of dog owners here on this board who are familiar with separation anxiety in dogs.  At 12 weeks old, this is very common.  Can she be in a crate in your room?  That's what most behaviorist recommend for puppies.  Check out our Puppies, HouseTraining and Crate Training section for ideas.

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    Thanks, I did mention that but test results and exam ruled it out.
  • To sum up my answer... YES! SA is VERY common is many dogs and having a routine or regular daily pattern is almost essential in training a new puppy. Some dogs can have it so bad that they will show symptoms that seem almost like they are dying. I agree with most of what you said the vet said, however, the part that would have me concerned is why didn't the vet offer to do more if you suspected the pup was poisoned? EDIT: just notice you posted faster then I could type. So then, if everything was ruled out with the test, the vet did everything in his ability to help the dog with the resources he had. So now it's your turn to manage it on your side.

    Dachshunds are very susceptible to a lot of things since there bodies are built a little differently then other dog. This makes treating them very risky and some drugs could be dangerous to use. When I use to help with surgery and a Dachshund came in, we had to monitor it extremely well because of how easily they could slip under. They are also a very hyper little dog, always following their noses which can lead them to get into a lot of trouble. Think about what they were originally bred for, they could fit into tunnel and holes that other dogs couldn't to get the prey. There is a lot of help and advice out there for dogs with separation anxiety and it's is a very REAL thing. The drugs used to treat SA should only be used as a temporary fix while you concentrate on working on the overlying problem that is causing it. To save yourself money and hardship in the long run I would even go as far as hiring a trainer or behaviorist to help set the pup on the right path to prevent or manage this in the future.
  • QuitWhinning!
    12 week old weiner dog

     

    This age puppy is going to cry when left alone.  I seriously doubt it's SA at this young age.  Get yourself some dog behavior/training books or you could create a case of SA with all the anxiety and drama.  Your vet maybe should have given you the shot and some better advice.....

    Authors I recommend are Karen Pryor, Patricia McConnell and Jean Donaldson.  Get the pup into a puppy class ASAP! 

  • Absolutely what Jackie and everyone else said.  However, to encourage you to GET those books let me give you a few home truths -- not meant to be snarky at all, but honestly you can screw up with a puppy and reap the consequences for a *very* long time!

    1.  It's probably not separation anxiety yet but handling this wrong could certainly birth it.

    2.  This is a small puppy - this dog needs to go out **during** the night -- you need to have the dog in your bedroom, to be perfectly honest so you can get up and take it out -- it's all steps in Housetraining 101 and how to get the dog trained so next year is easier!

    3.  All chemicals are potential hazards -- and I'm ever so serious.  Literally, pesticides can cause more than poisoning -- they can cause life-threatening diseases like IMHA (and trust me, you really don't *want* to have to know what that is!!  But it's bad!).  So you don't even let the dog on grass where pesticides have been used like that until a certain amount of time has passed and you may want to change what you use.

    4.  Panic thou not.  Taking the dog to the emergency vet in the middle of the night?  If you got your regular vet you are **fortunate** to have one who will meet you there! 

    I'd wager probably 99% of us have had to pay big money for "emergency vets"  (like $150 to walk in the door before any treatment??).  But you learn quick with a dog that pre-planning and being proactive is sooooo much easier.  A lot of that comes with experience (and it sounds like you don't have a lot -- that's not a judgment, that's simply trying to encourage you). 

    They are babies.  They have no judgment at all at that age.  He's trying to learn it all, trying to learn to please you, and he's already been taken away from mom, siblings, and bumped from one place to another and suddenly he winds up all alone, he's gotta potty and he *knows* someone is gonna be unhappy if he does!  Probably him!.  Besides -- he's just a baby and he's scared and alone -- so he has a hissy fit until someone comes, but like a child who cries themselves sick -- so did he. 

    But he also could have been licking his feet and ingested that junk from the lawn. 

    Vets only know what you tell them, and often they will jump to the most easily discernable answer.  But they tend to simply be reacting to what they see -- they aren't looking "deep" but rather for whatever  explains this the most easily. 

    The folks on here tend to be really helpful -- but the suggestions made here for you to do more training and read some books -- they are actually the wisest advice you could get.  When humans get up set it's easy to make snap judgments (like "I gotta get a good night's sleep -- put the dog in the laundry room where he can't chew the dresser!") but those can have bigger results than you planned on.

    Investigate things like crate training -- a 12 week puppy probably needs to be in a crate in your room during the night.  Maybe a little cuddle time until lights out but then pop him in the crate next to the bed, toss him a couple of treats and everybody say "Good Night John Boy .... Good Night Mary Ellen, Good Night Pup ..." and you can manage things from there.  It **does** take management tho -- it's not easy particularly with a small pup and inexperienced owners. 

    But we'll back you up and give you the benefit of our collective experience. 

    And btw -- yeah, there IS such a thing as doggy Xanax, but it's nothing you **want** to have to need -- so you train the pup now so you avoid the 2 year old dog who *is* an emotional wreck later.  Right now he's just a baby who is scared to death to be alone.  Dogs are pack animals.  They need you.

  • Here's a link that should prove helpful.  http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/cms-category/dog-training-tips