Cholodin - supplement for old dogs http://forum.dog.com/asp/m.asp?m=334530 Particularly good arthritis/pain sites are: http://www.dogaware.com/arthritis.html http://www.dogaware.com/misc.html#opcare (surgery) Here are a couple of posts about the natural treatment of pain, arthritis and skeletal repair...

[quote user="23scadoo"]My wife and I did try what the vet said last night, we figured that it couldn't make anything worse, but to tell her "no" when she submissively urinates worked about as well as a hole in a boat . [/quote] I like the way you put that. The cardinal rules for...