Posted : 9/15/2006 5:50:17 AM
And as for the tomato skins still containing pesticides, the company did say they were very well washed....just as we wash the fruits and veggies we buy at the grocery store. And if they don't get them free of pesticides with washing, neither are we.
I was going to point that out. Even organic foods can have sprays on them, depending on what's currently labeled as safe for organic use by whatever the current definition is, since the USDA and FDA don't have a definition for "organic." And what makes Mordanna so right about the supposing that tomatoes are not washed before being used in a prepared food? Is it because she's from Germany? Is she right because she is against the big-bad Purina? Because, as you are pointing out, Eagle Pack uses tomato pomace and EP is quite popular here but, according to Mordanna, they must be bad since they use tomato pomace and Mordanna, from Germany, knows all about american dog food preparation.
Edie's right, too. A company will always have the right to defend itself and will say what they want to in that defense. Does what a company have to say have any relation to reality? Can a holistic dog food company paint the rosy picture of picking a hand full of this and a smattering of that and lovingly hand-grind it so they can bring it to you? Are a couple of the young fast workers going out and tracking a bison and killing it quickly and mercifully with, say, a Remington 700 series .243, then field dressing it, carrying it back and carving out a sirloin steak cut to be used in the recipe?
Or do they, especially the smaller companies that can't even afford their own factory, buy ingredients by the ton to be mixed and made? Once again, for those in the back of the audience, ingredients in kibble have to be ground to a fine particle before being used in the extrusion cooker. Even the tomato pomace is a dry particulate. More often than not, it was made into pomace somwhere else. You don't have a bunch of peace-loving hippies waiting for tomato skins to dry so that they can grind the dried remnants into something. You have John Q. Redneck running a big machine because the company stays profitable by producing shippable tonnage. But, any company making food ingredients must have quality control and procedures that are checked. The same people that busted Diamond can bust anyone. So, I think tomato pomace is fine, whether it is in EP, Innova, or Purina. They may get their tomato pomace from the same supplier. So, as you, Sandra, are asking, what makes Mordanna correct and everyone else wrong? And for that matter, what makes tomato pomace in EP muy bueno and yet helps set Purina apart as ground-up crap? Is it because she's from Europe or that her creds are from a school system different than our own? Or because she says things people like to read? Does she work in the inspection branch that regulates food producers in a America? I don't know.
It was kind of like Ian Billinghurst with his creds from the Aussie education system making statements about the american vet education system when he's never been through it, though there are some people here who can find fault with our system. Do people believe him because he's got that quaint accent? I don't think most of us are that shallow but it is easy to get into a belief system and to end up justifying a number statements to support that position, even if evidence or reality turn out to be different.