Posted : 7/18/2010 12:28:31 PM
If he's taking NSAIDs on a long-term basis he really oughta be on milk thistel ALL the time (day after day ) -- no bas side effects and it will *prevent* the out of whack liver values.
Milk thistle's "highest and best" use is as a protectant. It **does** also lower the toxicity that can arise. But then you have to use quite a bit of it (or move into the realm of milk thistle tinctures -- which is stronger cos it's decocted in alcohol). HerbPharm is the best you can buy.
SAM-e **is** the detox. If you've got high liver values already the SAM-e is simply gonna work **faster** to bring those levels down -- and combining milk thistle *and* SAME-e really helps. (Like I said -- as long as he's on any drug that is hard on the liver just plain continue some pretty stiff doses of milk thistle -- it will actually help the liver function BETTER and often you can reduce the nsaid, believe it or not).
However -- the biggest problem with the OTC stuff is that most of it is in caplets (gelcaps) which tend to be enteric. That's great for a human, but it doesn't dissolve well in dog bodies.
The solution that I've found that truly **rocks** is to use Cell Food SAM-e. Try their website
There's a locator on the left. Their SAM-e is a little squeeze bottle - you just put drops on their food twice a day. That little bottle is pricey BUT it also lasts a WHOLE lot longer than the human gelcaps. But it works in the stomach!!!
You can use somewhere between 9 - 13 drops (Aesop is bigger -- I'd do the 13 drops probably).
This *does* have the Cell Food basic product in it which is, in stelf, a sort of general good supplement and detox.
I've used this on me, on Billy AND on Tink -- both of them had a really stubborn problem last year that was probably the result of some toxins after our roof caved in (tar, mold mildew -- it was just lovely *sigh*) and wow -- resolved it FAST.
That one tiny bottle will last you weeks. It's darned good stuff.
Now -- as to milk thistle. If you try to buy the capsules they also are pricey. BUT -- ordering milk thistle in bulk is an EZ thing -- I like Leaves and Roots - their one pound bag of milk thistle herb is $12.95 -- That is equivalent to about 10 bottles of capsules (AND the dog doesn't have to digest the cellulose capsule).
Milk thistle is pretty benign tasting -- mine actually LIKE it (and will go out of their way to lick up spillage off the floor). Generally I give a big heaping teaspoon twice a day. I just stir it into their food
The one downside to Leaves and Roots is you have to make a minimum $20 order -- but I can get totally lost in their essential oils (high quality -- good stuff). But can I suggest getting Aesop some peppermint oil or wintergreen oil??
Part the coat and pust just a couple of drops on the sore joints and massage in. You'll find again you can decrease any nsaid you give -- I've had major rheumatoid arthritis all my life since I was about 12 ... and I only take 400 mg of ibuprophen a day -- that is ALL the pain med I take, because mostly I use essential oils to reduce inflammation. This isn't food flavoring -- this is the real essential oil -- but gosh it works well. You'll need a dropper for the oil -- but hope this helps.