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jakers ..my new boy

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  • 10-03-2008 8:09 PM

    • tracim_1970
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    jakers ..my new boy

     i just wanted to drop a few pics of my new baby..these are the photos his good mommy took the day she sent him to the bad people..he doesnt look like this right now but he's packing on the weight and from the looks of his paws he's gonna be a moose lol..

    he's a real stunner 

    and he has a lifetime home here

     

    he's a  real meathead

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  • 10-03-2008 9:20 PM In reply to tracim_1970

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    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    He's a cutie!!

    Can I have my 4000-something posts back? Pretty please?
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  • 10-03-2008 9:33 PM In reply to tracim_1970

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    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    He sure is adorable!  Welcome to your forever home jakers.  I love the first picture with the cat....priceless.

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  • 10-04-2008 7:45 AM In reply to tracim_1970

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    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    He is beautiful!

    And it's nice to hear he has a good home now... 

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  • 10-04-2008 7:51 AM In reply to tracim_1970

    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    He is extremely cute. 

    Also, are you sure his deafness is not, at least in part, genetic?  Many white dogs are.  It looks like he lacks pigment in his ears...?

    The most common cause of congenital deafness is pigment related. (There is some talk about a recessive gene as well, but most researchers do not believe this is the case.) Some dogs have white coats, but still have pigmented skin (Samoyeds, West Highland Terriers, and White German Shepherds fall into this category). Although they have white fur, they have black noses and eye rims (their fur is actually not pure white, but a very light buff color). Other dogs normally have colored coats, and white trim (this includes Dalmatians; the white is actually not their real coat color, the "spots" are). The "trim" comes from areas of unpigmented (pink) skin, which produces white hair. If there is unpigmented skin in the inner ear, the nerve endings atrophy and die off in the first few weeks of the puppy's life, resulting in deafness. Please note that you cannot tell the color of hairs in the inner ear by looking at any visible part of the dog's ears (including the hair around the ear canal). Although many dogs with white hair on their ears will be deaf, many deaf dogs have colored ears as well.

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  • 10-04-2008 9:00 AM In reply to tracim_1970

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    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    tracim_1970:

    ... he's a  real meathead

    Aaww  he looks like such a sweet meat head.  Smile

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  • 10-04-2008 12:31 PM In reply to micksmom

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    Jakers looks amazing!! Awww... I love the first pic too with the kitty!

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  • 10-04-2008 2:38 PM In reply to Calinisima

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    Chuffy -- I'll insert here cos I talked to her last night for quite a while.  No one will ever know -- the abuse left eardrums broken (the vet can *see* that) and the former 'good' owner claims he WAS hearing.  but ... byb and she might be embarassed to admit he was deaf ...

    But when he barks it's very quiet -- and typically when a dog *loses* hearing they bark SUPER LOUD (like a person who has lost hearing tends to speak very loudly because they can't hear themselves anymore). 

    But his eyes are dark -- so no telling. 

    It's so easy for them to actually be reading scent (turning when you come in a room -- not because they heard you but because they SMELLED you or felt the air current change when you open the door).

    He's going to be a wonderful challenge -- I'd take a deaf dog again in a heartbeat.  The heights you can make that nose go to is incredible!!!


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  • 10-04-2008 3:30 PM In reply to calliecritturs

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     He seems to have SOME pigmentation.... his nose is black and his eye rims are not totally pink.  So not sure if he had a congenital hearing issue.... but its so sad that the vet can see broken ear drums Sad

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    Some people have no idea how to treat a dog.  He looks like a sweetheart and bless you for taking him in!  Sorry if I missed it, but have you had boxers before?

    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." (Pratchett, Jingo)

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  • 10-04-2008 3:55 PM In reply to Chuffy

    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    Chuffy you're reading my mind -- even with the ear drumd damage there may be *some* residual hearing anyway -- and it will be a while before she can definitively tell because of the abuse.

    Teaching a dog who has not a clue what "sound" is truly is *different* than teaching a dog who knew sound and WENT deaf.  The first dog doesn't know there is this sense 'sound' -- all he knows is he feels left out.  The second dog becomes and island in a different way -- he knew sound and knows what he's 'missing' -- it's a different type of fear/skittishness but the 2d dog knows there is such a thing as sound communication so you 'imitate' it.

    For those who haven't a clue what we're talking about -- when a dog is born from certain coat (usually a "merle merle" combo) blends in sire/dam genetically there is about a 1 in 4 or 5 chance it will be a "lethal white" or albino -- in dogs, hearing matures later like sight does and at about the same time.  But it is the pigment cells in the ears that complete the neural transmitters that make hearing 'happen' -- so a dog without 'pigment' in the ears will be deaf congenitally - they *have* eardrums, but the neural pathways were never completed so hearing never take place -- which is why everyone's looking for 'pigment' here.

    Because of the abuse this dog has a lot of 'fear' BUT he's also got a strong playful side which will give her a place to start in gaining trust and confidence.  Those tennis balls will be a powerful reward and she can play 'games' in hiding them that will develop the nose which is critical to teaching him to substitute sniffing for hearing so he knows something is coming up behind him and waking him up without trauma/fear.

     


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  • 10-04-2008 7:52 PM In reply to Chuffy

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    Re: jakers ..my new boy

     yes i have had boxers before i currently have milayla who is an 8 year old boxer-pit bull mix and zeuss, [aka ''moosifier''] who has been missing since march 1st and we're still looking for but it a  whole other story

    here's my boy zuess who's been with us for 5 years after being dragged by a van for almost 2 miles..we love him very  much

    here he is with his best friend chow yum fat [aka ''chow yummy''] ..he dissapeared when zuess did

     

     

    here's my girl mikayla i adopted when she was 3 months old [aka ''big pimpin'']

    i have a ton of pics i'm just figuring out how to load of some of the pets here and that have been here so i'll get them when i can!

     

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  • 10-05-2008 11:06 AM In reply to calliecritturs

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     update...this boy is barking so loud now its' hurting our ears...at first he was barking very softly and it was really cute but now the barking is at an unnormal to me level..ugh..and we told the neighbors...look he doesnt even bark!!....boy did he prove me wrong...thanks jakers...lol..but he does appear to be responding to commands and learning to behave but the new issue we are having with him...he likes to nibble like a keebler elf and then bam..he's bitten my brother-in-law and my son in the armpit and left bruises and bite marks, that isnt good...and of course the gas....the gas hasnt gotten any better it's bad and i mean bad..you literally flee the room and after a min...he flees the room..we've wet his food..no luck..calling the vet and seeing if we can switch him to a lamb and rice mixture tomorrow..thanks

     

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  • 10-05-2008 12:10 PM In reply to tracim_1970

    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    I'd wonder how much "up close" vision he has (with dogs a LOT of vision is peripheral and because the eyes are further apart than ours, seeing up close is a big huge problem in a dog who has 'edge of vision ' problem.

    When you offer food by hand either offer it on the flat of your hand or curled in your hand offering him the BACK of your hand first and then rolling your hand over and opening your fingers to a flat hand.  He probably can't SEE the fingers behind the goodie and in his haste he snaps.

     The gas is definitely food and it might be worsened by any meds the vet has him on. 


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  • 10-05-2008 12:23 PM In reply to calliecritturs

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     i wonder about the close up myself it's something i want to look into..as for the gas i have no idea what to do about it yet i already discussed it with the vet and of course here and have done what i was told yet i'm getting no relief on it..he is getting alot better with some things and i can honestly say he hasnt regressed on anything..just totally moving foward daily..i know i cant expect a miracle overnite i just want the best for him because he deserves it..any animal does..they're all important to me,....he has His ball now and is learning signs and actually makes eye contact now which is something we didnt have with him for over a week..right now i'm just working on basics with him and see what he responds to best, thanks for all the help

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  • 10-05-2008 12:29 PM In reply to tracim_1970

    Re: jakers ..my new boy

    Definitely take it slow -- with a special needs dog laying foundation is critical.  getting him to LOOK at you is beyond critical -- it's how you *have* to communicate with a deaf dog.  His experiences have been bad in the past, so he has to understand that looking AT a human now is the best thing that can happen to him!  Good luck.


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