Replacing Canidae?

• 07-05-2008 5:31 PM

  jennie_c_d Joined on 09-10-2007 Southeast Georgia Posts 8,678 Points 75

  Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact I have a friend... who has several, large dogs. She breeds and shows her dogs, and had been feeding Canidae. The dogs did great on it, and she was really happy with the product and price. Now? She's concerned about the glutens. That's one of the reasons she used Canidae. She's also concerned about the phytoestrogens in the peas. I've seen a big difference in Emma's seizures, since I stopped including peas in her diet. She does have one (rescue!) dog who is epileptic, and she's concerned about irregular seasons in her bitches, as well as cancer.   She's looking to replace Canidae with a cost efficient food that is gluten free and similar in nutrient content. She asked for my help, but I don't know which direction to point her in. I'm a dog food nerd, buuuut... I've not used kibble in years, prior to Ena. I asked HER what to buy for Ena, LOL. So.... what do ya'll think? Anybody got something good for big dogs that will fit her needs?  Mischeif N Miracles, CGC, RE (PRT, 10/13/2003) Libby's Monkey N The Middle (Chinese Crested, 1/26/2008) Teenie Weenie at the Bridge (Dachshund, ???-12/28/2007)

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• 07-05-2008 6:10 PM

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  Liesje Joined on 03-02-2007 Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts 7,070 Points 850

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact I have been very happy with Canidae but am also in the process of replacing it for several reasons: the formula change, the price of all kibbles is going up and Canidae is no longer cheaper than others, and my dogs have been on it for months so I'd like to rotate again.  Coke gets diarrhea on the ALS (possibly turkey?) so we have been using the Lamb and Rice.  I went to the pet store and got the first thing I saw at a similar price - Natural Balance Lamb and Rice kibble.  They actually like this better than Canidae.  I started with a 2/3 1/3 mix and now am at 1/2 1/2.   There have been zero problems and I could probably do a full switch over, but I want to finish off the 40lb bag of Canidae first.  The only change in poop is the color.  Someone told me the protein and fat in NB is slightly less, so I may have to feed a little more than the Canidae.  They have not been on it long enough to evaluate their coats. vankelderdogs.dutchbingo.net U-CH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop RA CL1-F CL1-R TT HIC TDI CGC (GSD) VPC's Coca-Cola CGC (All American) Alta-Tollhaus' Bono (GSD)

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• 07-05-2008 7:03 PM

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  brookcove Joined on 09-10-2007 Semora, North Carolina, USA Posts 4,316 Points 335

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact  Can you get Blackwood - or rather can she get Blackwood?  They make a Trout and Potato that's high quality and gluten free. I think Pinnacle may make a low-gluten formula.  It's got grain but maybe rice and quinoa only?  I can't remember. And, I'll be stoned for this I'm sure, but Diamond Naturals makes reasonably priced fill-in-the-blank and rice formulas, that are comparable to Canidae (that's why I can hardly believe that Canidae is making the change). and there's the ProPlan sensitive formulas - I forget how they are on the high gluten grains.  Becca Shouse Maggie and Zhi (queen bees), Ben, Gus, Cord, Rocky, Ted (BCs), Lu and Tully (Maremma flock guardians) "Protect, Herd, Love" Irena Farm, Semora, NC "We didn't have a phone, and we couldn't call you!" Helen, AIDS orphan. Don't let them die of ignorance - WorldHelp.net "I-Dog Biggest Loser" Official Cheerleader/Mascot Start 09/15/08: 186.4 lbs Current 185.5 lbs

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• 07-05-2008 11:50 PM

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  NikoAwesomo Joined on 04-18-2007 Phoenix, AZ Posts 254 Points 15

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact How about Healthwise Chicken and Oatmeal? My lab does very well on this Natura's product whenever I feed him this product.  His coat is very shiny and he hardly sheds whenever I feed him this product....and SMALL, FIRM POOPS!!  It is very reasonably price (at this time, a 35lb bag is about $33 in Phoenix, AZ...it may go up given the gas and rice prices). I know folks don't think much about this Natura's line of products but, gosh, given the ingredients and amounts of Omega 3 and Omega 6, it is a high quality food at lower price. I wish they make the lamb and oatmeal without barley.  The chicken and oatmeal has oatmeal and brown rice.   P.S. http://www.naturapet.com/  I love their new marketing slogan....I wonder if this is in response to a number of companies changing their formulas... but, I hope Natura does not change their formulas for Healthwise.

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• 07-06-2008 12:08 PM

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  jennie_c_d Joined on 09-10-2007 Southeast Georgia Posts 8,678 Points 75

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact  She actually uses some of Natura's products for her small dogs, and was saying the other day that she'd love to feed them all Innova, but the cost is too much (that's what she had me feeding Ena....). I'll send ya'll's suggestions on to her. Thanks, so much!!!   Becca, I already showed her the Diamond foods, but she is nervous of Diamond. They're shockingly good, and incredibly priced. Mischeif N Miracles, CGC, RE (PRT, 10/13/2003) Libby's Monkey N The Middle (Chinese Crested, 1/26/2008) Teenie Weenie at the Bridge (Dachshund, ???-12/28/2007)

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• 07-07-2008 10:22 AM

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  smilee1079 Joined on 09-10-2007 near Baltimore, MD Posts 1,726 Points 5	Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact   I am looking at adding Healthwise to my Canidae rotation.  A store near where I live now sells it.  I won't need it for a few more months, but I think it looks good. Stacy (28 yr. old human), Zoe (5 yr. old mini dachshund), Jake (2 yr. old golden/collie)
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• 07-08-2008 11:12 AM

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  DanielleNY Joined on 05-27-2007 Posts 92 Points 5	Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact I'm researching Canidae alternatives for my sister, and I've got it narrowed down to California Natural, Innova, or Eagle Pack Holistic Chicken.
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• 07-08-2008 2:06 PM

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  4mutts Joined on 06-29-2008 Posts 24 Points 0	Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact Artemis Fresh Mix Adult is quite similar to Canidae. It's what I'm currently feeding Roxy & Porche, I love it! It's quit cheap for what you get, as well. I'd highly suggest her checking it out. Slave to: Ryder, Amara, Jetta and Astra.
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• 07-08-2008 2:11 PM

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  rwbeagles Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW, TX Posts 14,849 Points 2,030

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact Diamond does quite a few of the more respected foods including Natural Balance no? I think they also do Artemis...according to WDJ anyhow..I understand her being leery...but....IMO the place least likely to have another issue...is Diamond...LOL. Their co simply couldn't take it...and they won't let it happen, IMO. I agree their prices are good, too. My hounds didn't get along with the beet pulp in the formula I tried a while back...haven't re looked since. Gina H. dog.community Moderator "Carne Asada, is not a crime."

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• 07-08-2008 2:12 PM

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  corgipower Joined on 09-10-2007 new jersey Posts 780 Points 0	Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact I've been very happy with Nature's Variety, prairie and instinct. I don't know how it compares in price, though. Proud member of the tenth place CISRA 2008 team!! tweleve.org corgipower.com My Dog Votes!
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• 07-08-2008 9:26 PM

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  shamrockmommy Joined on 09-10-2007 Innerspace Posts 654 Points 0

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact Has she looked into PetGuard Lifespan?  They removed the corn and menadione from it and now it "reads" excellent and still performs as great as the old formula.  I've had my guys back on PG now for a week and doing well.  But if it helps, I fed it for a year straight and dogs were in great condition. www.petguard.com I know I talk a lot about it now and again, but I'm really happy w/it and love the customer service.  The food smells great too, like a roasted chicken. The canned varieties are super too! Shamrockmommy Furmom to Gobie the minpin terror, Lexi and Darby the bichon girls

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• 07-09-2008 10:01 AM

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  DogPark Joined on 06-04-2007 Posts 185 Points 0	Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact I agree that they are worth a second look.  I have been feeding Mosby Taste of the Wild and have been really happy with it.  And when I have called their customer service line with questions, they have been very helpful.
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• 07-11-2008 11:31 PM

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  NikoAwesomo Joined on 04-18-2007 Phoenix, AZ Posts 254 Points 15

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact DanielleNY: I'm researching Canidae alternatives for my sister, and I've got it narrowed down to California Natural, Innova, or Eagle Pack Holistic Chicken.   How about canine caviar?  I tried a mid-size bag for my lab.  He does well on it....very high content of omega 3 and omega 6, very good ingredients, and no fruits/veggies (I prefer to give him fresh fruits and veggies).  I actually fed him the puppy formula (chicken based) because I want higher protein contents and lower carbs.

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• 07-12-2008 8:25 AM

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  RidgebackGermansShep Joined on 03-24-2006 Lexington, KY Posts 2,834 Points 425	Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact What is bad about the canidae formula change? I've been so happy with it, i'd hate to change. Is it just gluten, if so, why is gluten bad for dogs? sorry if this is a stupid question. Eat, drink, and be merry...for tomorrow we die..." - Dave Matthews Band Megan
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• 07-12-2008 8:50 AM

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  NikoAwesomo Joined on 04-18-2007 Phoenix, AZ Posts 254 Points 15

  Re: Replacing Canidae? Reply Contact RidgebackGermansShep: What is bad about the canidae formula change? I've been so happy with it, i'd hate to change. Is it just gluten, if so, why is gluten bad for dogs?   Have you looked the new formulas?  The various grains (and grain fraction like rice bran...which Canidae previously claimed not to use) added now are not necessarily great for some dogs due to allergies to various grains.  I am not thrilled because of the barley added.  My lab itches whenever he eats barley.  Rigth now you probably still have the old formula of Canidae.  When you do try the new one, you should probably transition it slowly. Another reason I am thrilled, is the manufacturer Canidae uses for the new formulas, Diamond.  Personally, I prefer not to use products made by Diamond (for Diamond and for other companies).  Again, that is just my preference.

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