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Giardia

Last post 12-20-2007 10:20 AM by erica1989. 12 replies.
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  • 12-13-2007 10:48 PM

    • dyan
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    Giardia

    Hey guys...looking for any new information that someone might have out there on Giardia.

    The girl I work with got a new Shelty...he came from a breeder someplace out of state.   Right after she got him,,,he got diarrhea...turns out Giardia.  He was treated by our vet....got it back...treated again and has been fine.   Last night she got home after work and he had diarrhea again,,,all over the house. She said even before when he was younger he never had an accident....even when he had Giardia....but yesterday he did.  On top of it..her cat had diarrhea also,,,,and when she and her husband tried to tend to the cat it turned mean and growled and tried to bite.   She frantically brought in both of them to work today.. the dog had Giardia again....but the cat does not.  Dr. thinks some kind of infection for the cat.   She brought them home and the cat is still hiding,,,not eating and growling and biting if they get close to her.     

    Wondering if any one ever had a dog with Giardia that kept coming back?  And any suggestions. 


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  • 12-14-2007 5:26 AM In reply to dyan

    Re: Giardia

    dyan:
    Wondering if any one ever had a dog with Giardia that kept coming back?  And any suggestions. 

    Giardia can be very hard to get rid of.   This article will give you a good idea of why.

    It is important to keep the yard free of stool!!!  Giardia cysts in the stool can reinfect a dog and start things all over again.  Even if a dog doesn't have enough Giardia in its system to show symptoms, there can still be Giardia in the stool. 

    Safe-Guard (Fenbendazole) is a very gentle wormer that can help to eliminate Giardia.  The trick is not to stop when the diarrhea goes away.  There can still be Giardia cysts in the intestines and in the yard ready to start the problem all over again. 

    I would try something like this:  Give Safe-Guard four times at 2-week intervals.  Then give it two to four more times at 1-month intervals.  With luck that will get rid of all of the Giardia cysts.

    Giving Safe-Guard this many times can get to be expensive if you use the granules - especially with a large dog.  The liquid (link) is much cheaper and will keep in the frig for 3 years.  Don't worry about the fact that this particular bottle is labeled for goats and do not use the goat dosage (too low for dogs).  See below for the canine dosage and get a dosage syringe for administration.

    Administering Liquid Medication to Your Dogs (link) - Practice with water!!!

    http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/beaglehealth_canineintestinalworms.htm       (a Beagle breeder)

    The recommended dosage of this exact product and strength for canines is 1 ml (which contains 100 mg active ingredient) per 5 lbs of bodyweight. For example, a 25 lb Beagle would receive 5 ml (same as 5 cc or 1 teaspoon) per day for a 3 day period (total 3-day treatment consists of 15 ml which is the same as 15 cc or 1 tablespoon). ...  Every Vet I have ever talked to says the correct dosage is 100 mg of active ingredient per 5 lbs of body weight given for 3 consecutive days.

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  • 12-14-2007 7:04 AM In reply to dyan

    Re: Giardia

    dyan:
    On top of it..her cat had diarrhea also,,,,and when she and her husband tried to tend to the cat it turned mean and growled and tried to bite.  

    This article discusses the fact that cats can also suffer from Giardia and that it can be treated with Fenbendazole (Safe-Guard).

    This UK site indicates that the dosage is the same as the dosage for dogs, but Safe-Guard granules are not marketed for cats (???).

    Administering Liquid Medication to Your Cats (link)

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  • 12-14-2007 8:02 AM In reply to janet_rose

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    Re: Giardia

    I appreciate your fast answer!

    I think its quite strange that both the dog and cat have the same symptoms (almost) and one has Giardia and the other doesn't.   HHHmm!   I know she said she will probably have to take the cat back in next week...she is probably thinking that it just didn't show up in the cat stool.  

     

    Thank you Janet!  I will pass this along to Gena!


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  • 12-14-2007 8:33 AM In reply to janet_rose

    Re: Giardia

    Janet, the link doesn't work for the liquid dewormer. I'd like to try this on my husky just in case. She was tested (inconclusive) and then treated for giardia but still has symptoms so I'd like to treat again just in case. 

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  • 12-14-2007 11:18 AM In reply to Jewlieee

    Re: Giardia

    I would also like it if you could give us a new link.  I've used the granules before and as you said they are expensive to to multiple treatments, plus the dogs would eat less to avoid eating it.  I'd like to get some of that liquid.  Also, where can you buy the oral surenge (sp?)?  Thank you.

    ~Steph



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  • 12-14-2007 2:15 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: Giardia

    dyan:
    I think its quite strange that both the dog and cat have the same symptoms (almost) and one has Giardia and the other doesn't.   HHHmm!   I know she said she will probably have to take the cat back in next week...she is probably thinking that it just didn't show up in the cat stool.  

    Giardia can be hard to detect.

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  • 12-14-2007 2:24 PM In reply to Jewlieee

    Re: Giardia

    Jewlieee:
    Janet, the link doesn't work for the liquid dewormer.

    Sorry!!  The link is fixed now.

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  • 12-14-2007 2:36 PM In reply to TheDogHouseBCMPD

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    TheDogHouseBCMPD:
    Also, where can you buy the oral surenge (sp?)? 

    You should be able to find a children's dosage syringe at your pharmacy.

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  • 12-18-2007 8:41 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: Giardia

    dyan:

    Hey guys...looking for any new information that someone might have out there on Giardia.

     

    I feel like the Giardia queen around here..... I know it all to well...  This has been the life saving treatment and has always worked in riding that darn stuff... I swear by her method.... Everything else my vet tried didn't work till I ran onto this link I use the paste cause its easier for me to dose cause  you need to do it for 3 days... Then take that dose and seperate it into 10 days. Your vet can help figure that out for you by the weight of the dog.

     Giardia, Protozoa, Loose Stools, Weight Loss, Eating Grass, Diarreha | GREATDA

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  • 12-18-2007 9:02 PM In reply to terrierlover

    Re: Giardia

    terrierlover:
    This has been the life saving treatment and has always worked in riding that darn stuff... I swear by her method....

    Note that the Panacur used by the GreatDaneLady to treat Giardia is the same as Safe-Guard.  One can use the GreatDaneLady's methodology with Safe-Guard instead of Panacur.

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  • 12-19-2007 10:11 AM In reply to janet_rose

    Re: Giardia

    janet_rose:

    Note that the Panacur used by the GreatDaneLady to treat Giardia is the same as Safe-Guard.  One can use the GreatDaneLady's methodology with Safe-Guard instead of Panacur.

    Good to know :) thanks... I will make note of this... :)

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  • 12-20-2007 10:20 AM In reply to janet_rose

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    Re: Giardia

    janet_rose:
    Giardia can be hard to detect.

    Are they using a giardia snap test? Or are the just doing the fecal float? The Snap test is much more reliable, as it is really hard to find under the microscope.



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