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Last post 10-30-2007 7:01 PM by timsdat. 26 replies.
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  • 08-21-2006 1:44 PM

    • guinnsmom
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    litter mates

    What is your general opinion of getting two puppies from the same litter? Also male and female combo versus two females?
     
    And what also would your opinion be of getting two puppies from different litters that are 9 days apart? They have the same father.
     
    I am asking on behalf of a friend. She has checked out the breeder and she is not a backyard breeder, nor is she a puppy mill.[:@]
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  • 08-21-2006 2:09 PM In reply to guinnsmom

    RE: litter mates

    I wouldn't.

    I actually probably wouldn't even get a puppy, in the first place, so I may not be the one to ask.

    Two puppies would be a LOT of work. Two females or not would depend on the breed and the personalities of the individual dogs. I love terriers. I will NEVER have two females, again.
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  • 08-21-2006 2:14 PM In reply to guinnsmom

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    RE: litter mates

    It depends on how much of a challenge your friend is up for. With two puppies of the same age, even if they are not littermates, you have to be careful that they don't bond more closely with each other than they do with you... you're talking about a major time commitment as far as housetraining, separate obedience training, all that good stuff. There is potential for problems. I knew someone with littermate cocker spaniels (1 m 1 f), everything went well until the dogs were a year old or so and then the male started to resource guard the owner and fight the female to the point that she rehomed him. On the other hand... as long as your friend is aware of the potential challenges and pitfalls it can be done and it can work well.
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  • 08-21-2006 2:18 PM In reply to guinnsmom

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    RE: litter mates

    I think two puppies would be a lot of work. But I considered it because I thought it would be fun. One thing I've heard about getting littermates is that they tend to bond with each other more than with their owner. If you raise just one puppy, that puppy will bond with you more.
     
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  • 08-21-2006 2:19 PM In reply to guinnsmom

    RE: litter mates

    The problem with this is that when you have littermates, or even of a different litter the same age, they will bond with each other  so much that they probably will not want to be apart. This would cause seperation anxiety, and might interefere withe the dogs bonding with their owner as an individual dog. I think when getting a puppy, I would probably wait until the one is at least a year old, before getting another one. This isn't beacause they shouldn't bond with each other, or get the socialization, but just because it would be pretty hard to have two puppies at once. JMO. My first dog was 3 years before I got another puppy. 
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  • 08-21-2006 2:45 PM In reply to guinnsmom

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    RE: litter mates

    I have heard this as well, that getting littermate puppies, or even 2 puppies of the same age from different litters, usually causes the pups to bond better with each other than with their owner. 
     
    In addition to this, it is twice the amount of work.  Twice the amount of time.  Twice the amount of toys.  Twice the amount of training.  Twice the amount of food.  Twice the amount of cleanup.  etc.
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  • 08-21-2006 3:09 PM In reply to guinnsmom

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    RE: litter mates

    I agree.  Not a great idea.  Now I'm a bit of an oddity in that I foster and usually end up keeping some of the pups, BUT it is a tremendous amount of work and it takes incredible dedication.  Unless you friend is as certifiable as I am AND is home 24/7 with absolutely no life outside of critters, not a good idea.
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  • 08-21-2006 3:24 PM In reply to guinnsmom

    RE: litter mates

    We also have had 2 or more puppies at the same time since we do foster.Currently we have 2 that are different breeds and about 2 months apart in age that have been growing up together and have become very bonded.The only thing that has kept them from bonding more is that there are so many other dogs here for them to play and interract with.We are also set up to handle keeping them seperated at times and the constant access to the outdoors to help house breaking.
    Not to mention that im with Glenda as i have little life other than my dogs and kids (ok a few cats too) i dont get out much and when i do its to go to the vet of the dog food store.I dont own clothes that dont have muddy doggie print stains and fur on them.So if this sounds like a good time for you then good luck!
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  • 08-21-2006 5:02 PM In reply to guinnsmom

    RE: litter mates

    I could write a long post pointing out why it isn't a good idea, but everyone else has covered that.
     
    So basically, Not a good idea.
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  • 08-21-2006 5:16 PM In reply to guinnsmom

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    RE: litter mates

    I recommend sticking with one puppy at the moment. Puppies are a lot of hard work who need patience, diligence and repetition. Getting 2 puppies at the same time is equivalent to having human twins. Multiply everything by 2. Will your friend have the time to give each puppy alone time with just herself as the owner? This will help the bonding that the puppies need with their owner. They will need to bond themselves more to their human owner than each other. Each dog will need and want individual attention. I recommend only getting 1 puppy and waiting a few years to get a second puppy or dog.

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  • 10-30-2007 1:05 AM In reply to SaraD

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    Re: RE: litter mates

    Besides each pup needing his/her individual attention and time to bond with their owner, what other problems can arise? It seems like people usually get two pups at a time. I can't imagine it'd be easy, but is it really that bad of an idea?

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  • 10-30-2007 1:26 AM In reply to ZBAndMe

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    Re: RE: litter mates

     Well for what it's worth..I have litter mates..I got them at 10 weeks old...I never had a problem...it does take some work with training..but I didn't find it hard..Both are now 9 years old and follow me everywhere...

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  • 10-30-2007 8:06 AM In reply to guinnsmom

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    Re: litter mates

    I got two puppies, not littermates, but two weeks apart in age, and it's been fine so far (they are 10 months now). I don't really see a problem with the two pups bonding with eachother, I wanted them to grow up together and be "friends". It doesn't really make sense to me that just because they bond with eachother, they won't bond with their owner. I haven't had any problem with them bonding with me and my husband, they are very much velcro dogs. One prefers me and the other prefers DH, but that works out well for us actually. They have very different personalities and are very fun to watch, plus it is so easy to keep them entertained and tire them out. It does take more work, that should be a given I think, and potty training was harder, but it just depends on how much time you have. I do recommend seperating them for training and seperate crates, and DH and I try to split them up sometimes for outings. Mine generally have no problem being seperated except for one time recently when Ripley had diarrhea and had to stay in his crate and Frosty layed outside his crate and paced around the crate. He was fine though once I took him upstairs and out of sight of Ripley.

    If your friend wants two I think it is ok as long as s/he is honest with herself about how much time she has to devote to them. It helps to have another adult helping out. As far as sex, I would think a male/female pair would be best, but she would have to be diligent about fixing them as soon as they are old enough, imo. Mine are both males and that has been fine. I have heard negative things about two females, but I don't know if that's true or not.

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  • 10-30-2007 8:13 AM In reply to 2shelties

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    Re: litter mates

    I would not do it, mainly b/c they will inevitably get old and deteriorate at the same time.  My friend had two dogs just a few months apart, and they died a few weeks apart at Christmas.  It was not good times.  Towards the end of their lives, they both had many health problems. 

    With two, you can't cut corners.  As others have said, they each need their own crate, they each need to be taken to obedience with one person, they each need one-on-one attention and training. 


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  • 10-30-2007 8:25 AM In reply to Liesje

    Re: litter mates

    Okay, I will be the oddball here, I have two puppies, two littermates, male and female (see below) they may not look like littermates, but they are lol.  And we have had no difficulties.  They sometimes sleep separate, sometimes together.  I take them out separately for walks most of the time, sometimes together with my father, but mainly they are out separately.

    There is no problem with feeding, they stick to their own bowls, we tell them "ladies first" and put down Maddie's food, Zack waits his turn for his bowl to be placed on the other side of the kitchen table with no fuss whatsoever.

    We make sure to get in separate play time/training time.  They come individually when only one is called.

    We have had great success with them thus far.  We had two dogs together (who weren't littermates) back when I was a child, a husky and a beagle, who were wonderful, after they passed, we got just one dog.  Because my mother works from home, he got very attached to her, the separation anxiety was horrible.  She could go outside the front of the house, he would cry by the door, and when she came back in (even if it was 5 minutes) he would act as though he hadn't seen her in a week.  Don't even get me started when she was away for a week.  No one slept.

    In my house, we don't have to worry abotu having two crates because we don't use crates, the dogs have free run of the house, with no problems at all.

    So, I think that if you are willing to put the time in and effort for the pups, it isn't a totally bad idea.  My family is doing it wonderfully.

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