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Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

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  • 05-13-2007 10:51 PM

    • WiltingSoul
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    Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    First for a brief introduction.  My name is Kari and I have a 10 month old German Shepherd.  His name is Dakota and he'll actually be 11 months in about a week.  We've also got a little miniature pinscher/bichon mix who is about 4-5 years old named Peanut who is about the size of Dakota's head.  Normally they get along okay with the occasional argument caused by Dakota wanting to mess with Peanut who then squaks like a bird (not even kidding, you'd think she's getting stepped on) before biting him wherever she can reach, i.e. his feet or face.  Dakota usually backs down after this and that's that. 
     
    Yesterday, however, he decided to go absolutely nuts over Peanut.  They are both unaltered (Dakota will get neutered in the future) and Peanut had just finished having her period and allowed back inside.  For some reason Dakota is going absolutely nuts over her.  He will not leave her alone.  We have to keep the two separated because he's constantly going over to her and pawing at her gently and trying to lick her and she wants none of it.  When we do separate the two, however, Dakota whines.  And when I say whine, I mean he cries and cries, and cries.  He will not shut up. 
     
    So my question for you all is, what is his deal?  Will he stop in a few days or what?  He's driving us all insane, especially little Peanut, who wants absolutely nothing to do with him.  Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks.
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  • 05-13-2007 11:27 PM In reply to WiltingSoul

    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    Just because she's finished spotting means absolutely nothing.  There's a possiblity of her tying with him and becoming pregnant.  Intact males will forsake food and act like idiots (think drunk horny guy in bar!) until the fertile period is over.

     Will he return to normal? Probably.  But now he knows she's not fixed.  And with him being unaltered as well, you may have to keep them seperate.

    Not to pry but why would you keep Peanut intact?  If they do end up tying, she will most likely have some serious problems carrying full term pups and if she does go into labor she will need a C-section to get those pups out.
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  • 05-14-2007 12:08 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    When we got Peanut we saw no need to get her fixed since she would be inside all the time and we had no other dogs.  I used my money to purchase Dakota, and we planned on getting him fixed from the get-go, so we never thought it would be a problem.  We didn't even think it was possible for them to mate because she's so tiny compared to him.

     
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  • 05-14-2007 12:29 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    Wow he's gorgeous!!  But yeah, it's not going to get easy any time soon unless they're both fixed.  I've heard stories of males doing pretty much everything short of barging through a solid brick wall to get at a female.  Please do them both (and yourselves!) a favor and get them fixed.  It'll be FAR cheaper than dealing with the repercussions of a pregnancy and/or having your property destroyed.
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  • 05-14-2007 12:41 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    Dakota is beautiful....I agree with the others get them fixed..
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  • 05-14-2007 1:19 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    I had been planning on getting Dakota fixed soon, I guess now will have to be the time, lol.  As for Peanut, I can't say we'll get her fixed, it's just not in the budget at the moment.  Since Dakota is my dog, I'll be dealing with him, but Peanut is more of a family dog and at the moment it's just not a priorty.  I know that probably sounds horrible, but for the time being that's just how it goes.  Is it going to be a big problem if Dakota is fixed and Peanut isn't?
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  • 05-14-2007 1:39 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    WiltingSoul:
    Yesterday, however, he decided to go absolutely nuts over Peanut.

    Sorry to tell you this, but neutering Dakota may not stop him from going nuts when Peanut is in heat.  Lots of neutered males will still tie with a female in heat.
     
    When a female dog's vaginal discharge decreases or stops, that is the time when she is usually willing to accept a male.  Some females will have a "silent heat" where there is no noticable discharge.
     
    Females that go thru heat, but are not bred, are at a higher risk for pyometra - a uterine infection that can be fatal.

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    Proestrus is the time when a ***'s reproductive tract is preparing for the possibility of breeding with a male dog. It lasts an average of nine to 11 days, but can last for as little as three or as long as 21 days. Its onset is usually accompanied by a bloody discharge from the vagina as well as swelling of the vulva.  ...
     
    Estrus is the next stage of the estrous cycle.   It also lasts an average of nine to 11 days, but can vary from three to 21 days.   It can be defined as the time when the *** accepts the male dog for breeding.   During this stage, she sometimes exhibits a behavior called "flagging."   This involves the *** standing in one place, sometimes shuffling her feet, while at the same time, lifting her tail to allow the male to sniff her hind end.   During estrus, the vaginal discharge decreases, becoming less bloody in many dogs. 

    The next stage of the heat cycle, diestrus, is considered the period when progesterone dominates the hormone scene.   Diestrus lasts from 60 to 90 days in a dog that doesn't become pregnant or approximately 63 days in a dog that does become pregnant.   As a consequence of the ***'s long exposure to progesterone when she's not pregnant, she's prone to a condition called pyometra if not spayed.  Pyometra occurs when the uterus fills with bacteria and white blood cells.  If untreated, pyometra can lead to fatal illness due to toxins secreted into the blood stream or the uterus actually rupturing.  Thus, it's highly recommended to spay a *** that will not be used for breeding.  ... 

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  • 05-14-2007 9:31 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    You sent Peanut outside to have her season?


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  • 05-14-2007 9:37 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    ORIGINAL: janet_rose
    Sorry to tell you this, but neutering Dakota may not stop him from going nuts when Peanut is in heat.  Lots of neutered males will still tie with a female in heat.

     
    Yes, there are exception.  With my intact female, she was in control of males...their going nuts and whether they can mount. 
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  • 05-14-2007 9:57 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    FAR more important to get the bitch fixed than the dog. SHE is at real risk (due to her age) of pyometra which can turn deadly in short order with very few symptoms. Use your money to fix the bitch then save up for the dog.
     
    Also...bathe the bitch, if her season is over (and this can take 3 weeks or more) pheremones may still linger in the area and on her area. Bathing will help.
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  • 05-14-2007 10:04 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    ORIGINAL: rwbeagles

    FAR more important to get the bitch fixed than the dog. SHE is at real risk (due to her age) of pyometra which can turn deadly in short order with very few symptoms. Use your money to fix the bitch then save up for the dog....

     
    Yes, for my bitch the fix took place at age 9 and was probably a few days away from pyometra.
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  • 05-14-2007 11:04 AM In reply to WiltingSoul

    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    there are low cost spay/neuter clinics available in most places. Now is a good time to spay the little girl if she just finished her season. You'll probably want to wait until the shepherd is two to neuter him.
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  • 05-14-2007 1:42 PM In reply to WiltingSoul

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    RE: Lovesick Puppy = Insanity (help!)

    Is it going to be a big problem if Dakota is fixed and Peanut isn't?


    Yes, they both must be fixed ASAP.
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