Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev?

• 08-05-2007 10:01 AM

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  glenmar Joined on 09-10-2007 Northwestern Michigan Posts 11,406 Points 405

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact I use a heaping spoonful of minced in each 20 quart pot.   You have to leave the dog lathered for at least five minutes to smother the fleas.  And then the ones that come off in the rinse have to be smushed with the flat of your fingernail.  You've gotta hear them pop.  I also follow up treating my drains, just in case, with lots of really hot water and bleach so they don't dry off and crawl back up.  Or, this is what I did when we still HAD fleas.   Back on topic, I've heard a few negative reviews on this product, but no positive ones.  However, one dissatisfied customer is a whole lot louder then TEN happy ones.... A house without fur is not a home. Glenda

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• 08-05-2007 10:24 AM

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  kpwlee Joined on 06-17-2006 North Carolina Posts 3,745 Points 375

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact I have been using the neem protect spray with VERY good results.  I use it to supplement K9 Advantix.  I'm not sure what causes the lumps on Bugsy when he's in the grass but something bites him, if I use the Neem no lumps.  he hated the smell originally and would do crazy rolling zoomies, but now I can walk up to him with bottle in hand and spray him.  He just looks at me like I don't like this but if it pleases you, so be it I don't drench him in it, I just spray the area he gets lumps, his feet, and a quick spary on his belly.  His fur is very short and his belly is essentially bare but he is very large yet that is enough to keep him OK

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• 08-05-2007 3:39 PM

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  Luvntzus Joined on 05-09-2006 Posts 3,691 Points 170

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Thanks for the continued input. [] I do feed my dogs an excellent quality kibble and they get very few fleas. But they do get a few. Since this spring I've probably found about 5 or 6 fleas on Gingerbread and less than 5 fleas on Fudge. With us moving to a house with a backyard they'll be spending more time in the grass, so I'd imagine they would be getting more fleas. Plus, our new landlord is really particular about things and per our lease we have to provide proof that our dogs are on a flea/tick preventative. I think the Ark Naturals Protect spray would probably work really well if I used it. [] I just can't stand the citronella smell so I've only used it maybe 2 or 3 times. I will use it on myself if I'm going through the woods and really need to repel mosquitoes. I'm going to try Bio Spot. It's really affordable and easy to get since I can just pick it up at Petsmart. It seems like it would be effective. The active ingredients are Permethrin and (S)-Methoprene. Frontline Plus is Fipronil and (S)- Methoprene. Advantix is Permethrin and Imidacloprid. So it looks like Biospot has one of the same ingredients as Advantix and one from Frontline Plus.

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• 08-05-2007 4:11 PM

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  janet_rose Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW area, Texas Posts 3,618 Points 330

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Luvntzus: I'm going to try Bio Spot. It's really affordable and easy to get since I can just pick it up at Petsmart. It seems like it would be effective. The active ingredients are Permethrin and (S)-Methoprene. Frontline Plus is Fipronil and (S)- Methoprene. Advantix is Permethrin and Imidacloprid. I don't like Bio Spot for the same reason I don't like K9 Advantix.  I don't like the idea of using a neurotoxic carcinogen (permethrin) as flea control. http://forum.dog.com/asp/m.asp?m=336785

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• 08-05-2007 4:18 PM

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  Luvntzus Joined on 05-09-2006 Posts 3,691 Points 170	RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Janet Rose- What do you recommend for flea/tick control?
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• 08-05-2007 4:20 PM

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  janet_rose Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW area, Texas Posts 3,618 Points 330	RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact tzutzu: I was not referring to the chews. Sorry.... I should have specified. I use the tablets and a tablet splitter   Are Heartgard tablets sold in the U.S.?
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• 08-05-2007 5:20 PM

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  beth82 Joined on 09-10-2007 Dallas, TX Posts 271 Points 0	RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact ORIGINAL: janet_rose I was not referring to the chews. Sorry.... I should have specified. I use the tablets and a tablet splitter  Are Heartgard tablets sold in the U.S.? Yes, they are.  That's what I use (my dog is allergic to the flavor ingredients in the chewables).
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• 08-05-2007 5:54 PM

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  calliecritturs Joined on 09-10-2007 Central Florida Posts 7,007 Points 1,955

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Luvntzus -- don't use Biospot -- first off, it lasts less than 2 weeks, BUT the big 'baddie' is that it's systemic.  It goes thru the skin into the dog's bloodstream and stays there (even when the benefits have worn off, part of it is still there).  There have been numerous cases of small dogs reacting very very badly to it.  [linkhttp://www.dogsadversereactions.com]http://www.dogsadversereactions.com[/link]   If you want something more cost effective and yet really flexible to dose why not try Frontline spray?  I use regular Frontline on Billy and Luna and it works well, but it doesn't on Kee Shu (peke).  But the Frontline spray works very well on her and lasts the month.   You're supposed to 'dose' it at 1 spray per pound but depending on the time of year I often don't use that much (and I'm in Flooooor-da -- flea capital of the world except maybe for Texas!).  But it's far cheaper (it's about $26 for the spray bottle and I've never used it up yet and have had it two years).   Good luck.

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• 08-05-2007 5:54 PM

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  chelsea_b Joined on 09-10-2007 Costa Mesa, CA Posts 2,663 Points 260

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Janet Rose- What do you recommend for flea/tick control?   Well, I'm not Janet, but I only use Advantage and Frontline. Usually Advantage. Seems to work better for us, plus the dog and cat formulas are exactly the same, so I buy the biggest tubes and get four (10-16 pound) cats and two (60 and 75 pound) dogs worth out of a little more than two tubes. It costs me just under $20 per month to do it this way. If I bought individual tubes for each animal, it would cost $54 per month.   I have a paper around somewhere with the dose by weight chart on it. I'll find it if you're interested. I bet you could dose out Advantage for a cost similar to Bio-Spot. Chelsea &

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• 08-05-2007 6:51 PM

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  Luvntzus Joined on 05-09-2006 Posts 3,691 Points 170

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Hmmm, that's kind of weird that Frontline and Advantage are considered to be safer. I would have figured that the chemicals in Advantix and Bio Spot were about the same. If I was going to use Frontline I'd just get the spot application. I'd rather use that than a spray. Buying a big size and dosing multiple animals seems like a good option. I do remember about 4 years ago I used Advantage and it didn't even work on my indoor cat (a Persian who's now at the rainbow bridge). So I've kind of lost faith in it. Then again, when I was working at an animal shelter in CA there was a Shar Pei with ticks on him. I used Frontline (not expired, correct dosage for his weight, from the vet clinic at the shelter) and applied it correctly. Several days later when I checked on him the ticks were still there and BIGGER. [] So I'm really on the fence about what to use. [&o]

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• 08-05-2007 11:03 PM

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  Luvntzus Joined on 05-09-2006 Posts 3,691 Points 170

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact ORIGINAL: calliecritturs ...the Frontline spray works very well on her and lasts the month. You're supposed to 'dose' it at 1 spray per pound but depending on the time of year I often don't use that much (and I'm in Flooooor-da -- flea capital of the world except maybe for Texas!).  But it's far cheaper (it's about $26 for the spray bottle and I've never used it up yet and have had it two years). I missed that the first time I read this thread. That really is inexpensive! I figured it out a little while ago that dividing up the largest vials of Frontline Plus would be about $95 a year (for 3 small dogs). And that was MUCH better than using the doses the way they're packaged. I figured that to be over $400 a year. [] That's absolutely ridiculous. Edited to add, I was going to use the Frontline spray but then I realized that may not be a good idea with my dogs. Fudge licks Gingerbread all the time. Sometimes after I've turned my back for just a minute Gingerbread's ears or feet will be soaked with spit. [:'(] Gingerbread just sits there and lets Fudge chew on him like a chew toy. [&o] So I think just having one spot between their shoulder blades would be much better.

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• 08-05-2007 11:37 PM

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  janet_rose Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW area, Texas Posts 3,618 Points 330

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Luvntzus: Janet Rose- What do you recommend for flea/tick control?  First, a high quality diet with garlic.  Second, a spray or vest with herbs and essentials oils - like Sentry Natural Defense.  The biggest problem with that product is the high concentrations against the skin.  Lower concentrations and products applied on top of the coat or to a vest get around that problem.  Third, Frontline Plus or Advantage if the local fleas have generated a resistance to Frontline.  Fourth, flea killing nematodes in the yard.   Frontline Plus uses (1)  Fipronil - a topical insecticide affecting the parasite's nervous system causing paralysis and death.  Kills adult fleas and ticks. Treats and controls chewing lice. Aids in the control of sarcoptic mange. (2)  Methoprene - Prevents flea eggs and larvae from maturing.    Advantage uses (1)  Imidacloprid - a topical insecticide that acts by blocking the nerve receptors. It kills fleas, but does not have activity against ticks.

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• 08-05-2007 11:47 PM

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  Luvntzus Joined on 05-09-2006 Posts 3,691 Points 170

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact Thanks for your reply Janet Rose. I've decided to use Frontline Plus. That's a good idea to put a repellant on a vest. They already wear Puppia vest harnesses all the time instead of a collar. So I could just put the repellant on that. I'd definitely rather prevent the fleas in the first place then have them hop on and bite my dogs for awhile before being killed by the Frontline. I'll look into the nematodes too. Thanks again!

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• 08-06-2007 1:46 PM

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  beth82 Joined on 09-10-2007 Dallas, TX Posts 271 Points 0

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact ORIGINAL: Luvntzus Edited to add, I was going to use the Frontline spray but then I realized that may not be a good idea with my dogs. Fudge licks Gingerbread all the time. Sometimes after I've turned my back for just a minute Gingerbread's ears or feet will be soaked with spit. [:'(] Gingerbread just sits there and lets Fudge chew on him like a chew toy. [&o] So I think just having one spot between their shoulder blades would be much better. No matter what you put on them, it would probably be safer to keep the dogs separated until it dries.  It won't do any good if it's all licked off right away, and I'm sure it wouldn't be good for little Fudge to ingest the stuff.

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• 08-06-2007 6:53 PM

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  Luvntzus Joined on 05-09-2006 Posts 3,691 Points 170

  RE: Anyone ever used this natural flea/tick prev? Reply Contact ORIGINAL: beth82 ORIGINAL: Luvntzus Edited to add, I was going to use the Frontline spray but then I realized that may not be a good idea with my dogs. Fudge licks Gingerbread all the time. Sometimes after I've turned my back for just a minute Gingerbread's ears or feet will be soaked with spit. [:'(] Gingerbread just sits there and lets Fudge chew on him like a chew toy. [&o] So I think just having one spot between their shoulder blades would be much better. No matter what you put on them, it would probably be safer to keep the dogs separated until it dries.  It won't do any good if it's all licked off right away, and I'm sure it wouldn't be good for little Fudge to ingest the stuff. Well, yeah of course I would keep them separate until the Frontline is dry. I guess I should have specified. What I meant was that at least there's less surface area where the product is applied. Even after an all over spray has dried I wouldn't want either of them to ingest it. When the product is only in one small place there's much less chance that either of them will ingest even a residual amount.

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