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  • 05-07-2008 4:38 PM

    • dyan
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    New puppy

    Oh boy guys!  I will be getting a new Great Dane puppy in a week or two.  I will crate him, at least at first. I don't really want him to be a crate dog....( not that I think its wrong for anyone to do...I just want my dog to be able to look out the window... go by the door if someone comes and things like that )  but I will start him out in one...and God knows how long he will be in one.

    Honestly have no idea how to crate train him,,,never have. Did get a crate when we got Bubblegum,,,but she only used it about 5 weeks or so...she started trembling when we put her in it in the end....so we stopped.      So we have a crate...its a bigger crate that has the divider in it.

    Just looking for a few tips...so many of you have crate doggies.     Hoping you send your best tricks my way.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!


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  • 05-07-2008 4:51 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: New puppy

    CONGRATULATIONS Party!!! ON YOUR NEW PUPPY!

    I don't have any advice on crate training, never done it either, just wanted to say best of luck with your new pup!

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  • 05-07-2008 5:03 PM In reply to BlackLabbie

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    PUPPY!!!!!!! What fun! You have to post LOTS of pictures. That puppy has no idea what a lucky dog s/he is.

     

    Crate training... ahhh... those were the daysWink Emma is still very much a crate loving dog, at 4 1/2 years old. If she wasn't, I wouldn't be able to show her like I do. Show dogs must learn to settle down in a crate, no matter where the crate is set up, and she took to it perfectly. She stays in one of those silly pop-up crates, when we're out of town. It's pink!

     

    Anyhow, when she was a baby, I just made the crate a happy place. I put a nice, soft bed in there. She got all of her meals, and lots of treats in there. Whenever I said the word (any word... doesn't matter. crate, bed, kennel, night night, house, whatever), I threw a cookie in for her to sit down and eat it. She still runs for her crate, if I have a bowl of food, a Kong, or a marrow bone in my hand. It's her safe spot. 

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  • 05-07-2008 5:12 PM In reply to dyan

    • erica1989
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    Re: New puppy

    Think of the crate as her 'room'. I use the 'go to your room' command for my older foster guys.

    I make it the nicest, most comfy place ever. Lots of fun toys, good chewies, a kong, etc. I feed my meals in crates (for the pups) which helps to create the positive association. When they are really little, I use an old fashion alarm clock to recreate the heartbeat of the momma dog, which helps to ease the transition from being away from mom (granted... I usually get pups anywhere from 3-7 weeks). I also put a worn work shirt in the crate with them, for the first couple nights, this helps the feel close to me, while crated.

    My guys are at the point where when they want to be alone, they go a snuggle in their crate, with their big teddy bear.

    Now... honestly, I only crate when I'm away from the house - not at night. I don't think it's fair, and a lot of times the pups will share the bed with Casey and I. Just make sure your room is puppy-proofed before hand! Older pups usually sleep on the dog bed on the floor, or on the bed, depending on how everyone gets along. Little Splash prefers his crate, and will sleep there at night, but I don't close him in.



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  • 05-07-2008 5:16 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: New puppy

    This is cute to put in a crate...not sure if they work, but the idea is good.

    http://fantasyyorkies.com/SnugglePups.html

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  • 05-07-2008 5:30 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: New puppy

    OMG! Congratulations! 

    When you bring the puppy home, put neat things in the crate (a stuffed animal) and feed him in there. Probably the first time you close the door, he's going to cry. Be prepared for a day or two (or three) of crying... even in the night. But if you let him out because he's crying, he will remember it forever and cry louder next time! Trust me! LOL

    The idea is to let him potty,play, then put him in the crate for a couple hours. That's pretty much the routine. I wish we had a decent search function here... Argh!

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  • 05-07-2008 7:14 PM In reply to FourIsCompany

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    Re: New puppy

    Gene, the OM where I work has a shelty...said her dog cried at night for weeks...... every night. She said she got little to no sleep....ended laying down on the floor and put her hand by the pup to get him to sleep.  

    Ollie used to be in a crate...but Mike ( my son.. Ollies Dad ) was at work....  but either DH or I will be home a lot.   I have a hard time keeping him in a crate when we are home....but I have to do that,,,right?    


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  • 05-07-2008 7:23 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: New puppy

    Not really. If he *needs* nap time, or a time out, then put him in the crate. If you can't watch him at the moment, and he might get into trouble, put him in the crate. Otherwise? There's no reason for him not to be with you.

     

    When Emma was a puppy, she would get overstimulated and start acting crazy. I just directed her to her crate, and she'd fall right to sleep. She woke up a refreshed and much more tolerable dog. Now? If she needs a break, she takes herself to her crate. 

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  • 05-07-2008 7:45 PM In reply to dyan

    Re: New puppy

    dyan:
    I have a hard time keeping him in a crate when we are home....but I have to do that,,,right?   
     

    I would, for the most part, or else under EXTREME supervision. The ideal would be that he never pees in the house and keeping him in his crate helps in that endeavor. But if your eyes are on him and you can catch him sniffing and getting ready to pee, then he can be outside the crate. Or after he's been outside and had a successful potty, then he can be loose in the house (with your eyes on him).

    That's the way I've done it, anyway and my 2 first ones were potty trained inside of 2 weeks.  

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  • 05-07-2008 8:57 PM In reply to FourIsCompany

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    Re: New puppy

    Thanks guys!  I appreciate all of your help!  Have a feeling I'm going to be looking for a lot of it in the near future...Sad  Should be getting him next weekend.

    This is great...first of all its been a while since I had ANY puppy. Bubblegum was three when I got her.  Then I never had a boy..not sure if that makes a difference..... but of course Ollie was at my house more often than not a few years back.  And baby Great Danes do all the funny things that other pups do...like crazy zoomies.....only they do GIANT ones!!!   Yes JCD, overstimulated is a great word...lol!

    Oh don't worry about those pictures either....Wink


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  • 05-08-2008 10:06 AM In reply to dyan

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    Re: New puppy

    I firmly believe that any dog should be comfortable and happy in a crate because they are necessary for certain things -- But I'm also of the camp that I don't think that the crate is a "babysitter" for when I'm just too lazy to watch my dog.  Kaiser is only in a crate at night, in the car and when I'm doing agility with Luke (at trials & training).

    Yes, puppy training can an exhausting and stressful time, but I figure it's what I signed up for.  It's my job to watch Kaiser for signs that he needs to go out and to keep him happy, exercised and TIRED (makes my life much easier Wink ).

    I make the crate a happy place by providing treats almost every time they go in (EVERY time in the beginning stages).  I left a stuffy & a chewie in Kaiser's home crate in the beginning, but now he tends to change them out on his own every now and then.  I always leave the door open when it's not bedtime and he's free to go in and out as he pleases.  Usually he chooses to sit in his crate and watch me while I get ready in the morning.

    With Luke I used the crate at night for about the first year (leaving the door open for the latter part) -- I anticipate doing the same with Kaiser, although Kaiser's crate is much less obstructive and could easily stay in the room without being too much of a bother.

    Kaiser cried slightly the first night, but I just hung my hand over the bed and stuck my fingers through the crate and he's been fine ever since.  We have a few crying issues at trials/training, but I just leave him to cry it out and he hushes after about 10 minutes.  Each time it gets better, so I'm figuring it won't be an issue much longer.  As with all training, crate training just takes time.


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  • 05-08-2008 7:32 PM In reply to jennie_c_d

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    Re: New puppy

    jennie_c_d:
    When Emma was a puppy, she would get overstimulated and start acting crazy. I just directed her to her crate, and she'd fall right to sleep. She woke up a refreshed and much more tolerable dog.
    Emma sounds a lot like Honor as a pup!  Honor has literally run herself into the ground ever since she was a pup, and her crate was a much needed sanctuary for her.  Whenever Honor would run herself to the point of super-overstimulation, she would put on her "cranky pants", and you could tell that she needed a nap.  The crate is (to this day) the only place where she'll truly sleep and recharge, and she definitely views it as her own personal room.

    When I was crate training her, I gave her meals and toys in the crate (promoted it as a super-cool place).  She quickly caught on that the crate meant good things, and the crate definitely made housetraining easier.  As long as you make the crate fun and safe, I bet your pup will grow to consider it their own personal "den".

    I'm so excited for you that you're getting a puppy, and I can't wait to see pictures!


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  • 05-08-2008 8:04 PM In reply to Infiniti

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    Re: New puppy

    What wonderful news Dyan.  I have never crated my Great Dane pups, with only one time being their ride home from the breeder.  I took one crate apart making two nice beds.  I placed the beds in the kitchen and babygated the room to make it secure.  I figured if I ever had to crate them, it would be familiar to them.

    You have to remember that Danes grow and grow and grow and you do not notice it until someone points it out.  I have not seen any crate size that is good fit for a Great Dane, well except my Toyota Sienna. 

    The Danes do grow out of the kitchen once they are tall enough to turn on the kitchen sink water.  Then I place them in the 90sqft kennels I have.  They do grow out of the Kennels once they reach the top of the 6 ft chain link wall.  Very dangerous at this point.  They then have free reign of the house.

    Some dogs are den dogs and some are not.  Don't force a crate on the dog if there are other better options.

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  • 05-08-2008 9:28 PM In reply to dyan

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    Re: New puppy

    Congrats how exciting!!

    Bugsy loved his crate we were just lucky.  He was about 12-14 wks old when we got him and being the active guy he is it was pure insanity outside the crate Stick out tongue   LOL he used to go in it immediately after eating his dinner and become comatose, we would shut the door but at that point in the evening, he was done for the night!

    Keep the side he is in small enough that he doesn't have room to use it for pottying and sleeping.  Put a towel or blanket in and see if he is a chewer or not.  We went with the crate pads until he destroyed the second one in a week then he got fleece blankets Wink  Of course we learned to put kongs in for him and gave him a treat whenever he went in.

    I do think that it is a really good thing to crate train if you want to travel at all as places that allow dogs almost always require crating.  Bugsy will still go in his crate when the mood strikes and has no issue when we go away with him.

    Good luck I am sooooo excited for the pics and stories
     


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  • 05-08-2008 10:35 PM In reply to kpwlee

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    Re: New puppy

    Good luck I am sooooo excited for the pics and stories

    Hahaha,,,,I guess you KNOW me!!!!!  

    Here is what I wonder.  I am not for leaving a pet unattended with things they might chew and choke on.  I know with Bubblegum we ended up putting her in the crate with a piece of cheese after she no longer wanted to go in,,,but leaving them with chews and things they can choke on kind of scare me.

    Dave,,,I know what you mean.......      I don't hope to keep him in a crate...I hope to get him housebroken..and then hope to soon trust him to not eat my house if we leave him for a while.   But I am sure that will take a while.  I thought I would put the crate in my laundry room....the crate is big so its not going into my bedroom...I wish it would fit in the kitchen but its really going to take up too much room there.   But I was thinking to get some baby gates to keep him out of my carpeted areas ( an in the kitchen ) until he is house broken. I know he will be able to knock down baby gates..or step over them....but my Dane/Shepherd Cindy learned to respect those barriers...so I am hoping this pup will also.
     


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