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How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

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  • 04-08-2008 8:47 PM In reply to Angelique

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    And I should probably post a disclaimer so that some are either aware of the dangers or know when they are out of their league and need professional help.

    I have been doing electrical work a really long time, starting in March of 1983. I have been studying electricity and electronics since October of 1974. I can tell by the glow of lamp whether it is an incandescent, an f32 741 or 735, whether an outside light is metal halide, high pressure sodium, or multi-vapor. I have a master license from the State of Texas and one from the city of Sherman, Texas. Having said that, I am not the "official" electrician of this forum nor do they have such a position. But when all else fails and you have special light bulb needs or questions, please, contact a local electrician in your area. There's nothing quite like paying $90 to $150 an hour, with a two hour minimum, for some guy in a dirty ball cap to say "yep, that light's burned out."

    And I may not be the best example to follow. I change bulbs and lamps with the fixture still energized. Any light bulb advice I can give should be remembered with the disclaimer that I am not liable for any damage and that you do these things at your own risk.

    If I suspect a lamp is hot, I may touch it with leather gloves or a towel. If the gloves or towel start smoking, then the lamp is way too hot (that's actually happened working with a 400 watt metal halide lamp in a pole light.)

    Now, to speak of the danger, and this is a fact, it takes 1/10 of 1 ampere of current to kill a grown man. What determines the severity of the electrocution is the voltage, area that is electrocuted, and the length of electrocution. Electricity makes the muscles contract. 120 volts can actually be more dangerous than 277 V (commercial lighting). 120 V may not make your muscles contract hard enough that the body's reaction pulls away. In dealing with a light bulb socket, you would most likely eletrocute your finger between finger tip and a knuckle. It will hurt like the dickens and scare the bejesus out of you. But you must train yourself to react only with the body part that is shocked. Otherwise, and this has actually happened to co-workers, you will panic and jump off the ladder and that's where some real injury can take place. Also, a few years ago, an employee at my company did, in fact, die from an electrocution while working on a small transformer that stepped 277 V down to 12 V.

    To borrow from another thread, it's all about the flow of energy.

     

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  • 04-08-2008 9:33 PM In reply to Angelique

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Angelique:

    Personally, I was disappointed in the LightbulbsMart class I took.

     

     

    The problem is training standards. Instructors at LightBulbsMart aren't recognized by the American Association of Lightbulb Changers (AALC).

    I would, however, recommend finding someone with both a Mater's degree in Early American History, who did their thesis on Edison, AND has training certification from the WALH (Worldwide Association of Lightbulb Handlers) - a group that promotes whole lightbulb wellness. (Obviously, proper lightbulb care and handling precludes the need for so much changing!) The Lighbulb Professional should also be able to demonstrate several years of professional practice with real lightbulbs, and not just the easy ones. IMHO.

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  • 04-08-2008 9:46 PM In reply to Ixas_girl

    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Ixas_girl:

    Angelique:

    Personally, I was disappointed in the LightbulbsMart class I took.

     

     

    The problem is training standards. Instructors at LightBulbsMart aren't recognized by the American Association of Lightbulb Changers (AALC).

    Sorry, the AALC is a diabolical cult out to rule to world. With clandestined meetings and secret letter writing campaigns, their sole purpose is to control the light bulb changing industry and take away the individual rights of all free light bulb owners through emotional manipulation of the masses, propaganda, and legislation.

    In reality, they are light bulb rights extremists, zealots, and fanatics.

    I recommend the Professional Association of Light Bulb Changers (PALBC), as the organization to contact for the truth.

    (ETA: Actually I don't care about light bulbs at all...I'm only posting in this thread to see my name in the "Most Active Users" list.)

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  • 04-08-2008 10:11 PM In reply to Angelique

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Angelique:
    (ETA: Actually I don't care about light bulbs at all...I'm only posting in this thread to see my name in the "Most Active Users" list.)

    The truth comes out. It was a "light bulb" moment for me. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    ETA:

    Here's a question. What is the relationship of you to your light bulb? Do you change it or does it require you to do the changing?

    How many of you use too high a wattage? Most fixtures have a stamp that tells the maximum wattage to be used. If it is a multi-lamp fixture, such as a ceiling fixture or chandelier, one must take into account the sum total of wattage. Here's something for the math geeks. P (total) = P (one) + P (two), etc. So, in my living room ceiling fixture, it can hold four bulbs. So, I only put in 40 watt bulbs. The light is putting out a total of 160 watts. Go higher than that and you have a risk of degrading the wiring from excessive heat.

     

     

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  • 04-08-2008 10:42 PM In reply to Angelique

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Angelique:
    Sorry, the AALC is a diabolical cult out to rule to world. With clandestined meetings and secret letter writing campaigns, their sole purpose is to control the light bulb changing industry and take away the individual rights of all free light bulb owners through emotional manipulation of the masses, propaganda, and legislation.

     

     Wonderful!! We agree on something, so now perhaps you will not have to use that poopy head blocking function on me.

     

    Angelique:
    Actually I don't care about light bulbs at all...I'm only posting in this thread to see my name in the "Most Active Users" list.)

     I am amazed!! I also am getting great satisfaction out of seeing my name on the most active users list!

     

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  • 04-08-2008 10:48 PM In reply to ron2

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    ron2:

    The truth comes out. It was a "light bulb" moment for me. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    ETA:

    Here's a question. What is the relationship of you to your light bulb? Do you change it or does it require you to do the changing?

     It seems to be confession time. I have no relationship with my lightbulbs (and yes it is lightbulbs, not light bulbs), I care nothing for them, I cast them away with no sorrow, no compassion and care not one whit how long they last or how they feel about life. I do not even know what kind of lightbulbs are in my home.

     I rarely even bother to change bulbs, my DH is much better at it than I anyway. Lightbulbs are nothing more than a tool, to be used and discarded.

     During the recent "black out the lights" I turned all of my lightbulbs on and forced them to stay on all over the house because I did not want to turn them off,

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  • 04-08-2008 11:41 PM In reply to dgriego

    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    dgriego:

    Angelique:
    Sorry, the AALC is a diabolical cult out to rule to world. With clandestined meetings and secret letter writing campaigns, their sole purpose is to control the light bulb changing industry and take away the individual rights of all free light bulb owners through emotional manipulation of the masses, propaganda, and legislation.

     

     Wonderful!! We agree on something, so now perhaps you will not have to use that poopy head blocking function on me.

     

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  • 04-09-2008 1:21 AM In reply to Angelique

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Angelique:

    ***LA-LA-LA-LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!***

    Angelique, you are off topic again.

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  • 04-09-2008 9:41 AM In reply to Ixas_girl

    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Oh sure - only a professional should change lightbulbs.  Are accusing the rest of us not-as-educated handlers of being in the dark about the best way to go about the whole changing business?

    Next you'll be trying to tell us that our lightbulbs are substandard, purchased from BYLPs (backyard lightbulb producers) and if we got them from reputable LPs, we wouldn't have these issues to begin with.

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  • 04-09-2008 12:17 PM In reply to sharismom

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

     Does anyone have a link to a Canadian branch or extension of the AALC?

    Candace



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  • 04-09-2008 12:21 PM In reply to huskymom

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    I don't think there is a Canadian branch.  Aren't the light bulbs changed by the govt there?  I thought it was one of the socialized services provided by the provincial govt.

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  • 04-09-2008 12:24 PM In reply to VanMorrison

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

     We get free medical care up here, but no, no we still have to pay an arm and a leg for lightbulb changing.  Though I have heard that there are weekend courses where you can go to get certified for lightbulb changing.  I wonder if they have a union?

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  • 04-09-2008 12:32 PM In reply to sharismom

    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    sharismom:

    Next you'll be trying to tell us that our lightbulbs are substandard, purchased from BYLPs (backyard lightbulb producers) and if we got them from reputable LPs, we wouldn't have these issues to begin with.

    I really think you should look into rescuing light bulbs. Every day millions of people just discard unwanted light bulbs, without any remorse.
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  • 04-09-2008 12:38 PM In reply to corgipower

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    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    corgipower:
    sharismom:

    Next you'll be trying to tell us that our lightbulbs are substandard, purchased from BYLPs (backyard lightbulb producers) and if we got them from reputable LPs, we wouldn't have these issues to begin with.

    I really think you should look into rescuing light bulbs. Every day millions of people just discard unwanted light bulbs, without any remorse.
     

    It was just one time!  They told me I had to switch to those new swirly looking bulbs...what was I supposed to do?

    Candace



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  • 04-09-2008 1:11 PM In reply to huskymom

    Re: How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    So that was you, Candace, who left those poor lightbulbs on the road near my house, hoping some kind soul would take them in.  What did you think - just because there were other lights on in my house that I wouldn't notice one more? Hmm

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