Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway?

• 02-04-2008 11:39 PM

  rwbeagles Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW, TX Posts 15,353 Points 2,035

  Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact Unnn   beee leeve able....that Johan Van der Poop guy! I could not believe what I was seeing...he is scum of the Earth. I hadn't seen such self absorbtion since...well...never. I hope they can stick something to him this time. That whole case is so wrong...it makes me so afraid for Lily when she's old enough to be beyond my reach, but young enough to be stupid enough to go off with some handsome doofus in a foreign country....all liquored up...*sigh* The whole thing is so incredibly sad.   ETA: Yiddish is censored lol how funny... Gina H. dog.community Moderator "I'll sleep when I'm dead, I said!"-The Cure

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• 02-05-2008 8:13 AM

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  l.michelle Joined on 06-15-2007 Ontario, Canada Posts 1,197 Points 20	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact I didn't watch it, but I heard about it, I think it is disgusting. I do, however, feel a bit better for the parents, I mean, this may sound odd, but at least they have confirmation of her death, some closure.  I could never imagine not knowing
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• 02-05-2008 8:57 AM

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  Jewlieee Joined on 03-23-2007 MI Posts 5,909 Points 4,235	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact  I missed it. I really wanted to watch it though....
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• 02-05-2008 9:24 AM

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  Liesje Joined on 03-02-2007 Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts 7,441 Points 850

  Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact Wow, just read through the article.  Sad.  I watched a few specials on this and this is actually what the head of the police in Aruba had always suspected - that they didn't violently kill her but she passed out or died from drugs/alcohol and they panicked and dumped the body.  vankelderdogs.dutchbingo.net U-CH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop RA CL1-F CL1-R TT HIC TDI CGC ("Kenya", GSD) VPC's Coca-Cola CGC ("Coke", All American) Alta-Tollhaus' Bono ("Nikon", GSD)

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• 02-05-2008 9:26 AM

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  rwbeagles Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW, TX Posts 15,353 Points 2,035

  Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact his comments on sperm being found in her body lead me to believe he did something more to her than kiss her. I cannot believe how little he cared and how centered on himself he was... That car they rigged up was sweet. Anyone have the odds on this whole thing being a movie soon? Sad. Gina H. dog.community Moderator "I'll sleep when I'm dead, I said!"-The Cure

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• 02-05-2008 9:32 AM

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  Jewlieee Joined on 03-23-2007 MI Posts 5,909 Points 4,235	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact  Where's the article at? Do you have a link?
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• 02-05-2008 9:32 AM

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  Liesje Joined on 03-02-2007 Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts 7,441 Points 850	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4222253&page=1&gclid=CO_7h-ShrZECFRduIgod9FdYWw  vankelderdogs.dutchbingo.net U-CH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop RA CL1-F CL1-R TT HIC TDI CGC ("Kenya", GSD) VPC's Coca-Cola CGC ("Coke", All American) Alta-Tollhaus' Bono ("Nikon", GSD)
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• 02-05-2008 9:34 AM

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  Jewlieee Joined on 03-23-2007 MI Posts 5,909 Points 4,235	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact   "I didn't even feel bad about it," he said at one point. "I didn't lose a night of sleep over it. I thought, 'I have to go on.'"   Wow, what a bastage. Seriously! Who could be that cold?
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• 02-05-2008 9:41 AM

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  rwbeagles Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW, TX Posts 15,353 Points 2,035	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact that's just the tip of the ice berg...do they have the video at that link?? You have to see his face to really get how awful a person this punk is. Gina H. dog.community Moderator "I'll sleep when I'm dead, I said!"-The Cure
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• 02-05-2008 9:59 AM

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  minimom Joined on 09-10-2007 Posts 490 Points 0

  Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact I watched it and it was sickening.  Gina's right, you have to see the video.  His words were bad enough, but the way he said them was absolutely chilling.  He has no remorse or even empathy for Natalie or her family.  He seemed to find humor in it.  I just hope that this footage will be able to be used as evidence in Aruba, as it would in the US.  "When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem" - Edward Abbey

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• 02-05-2008 10:05 AM

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  rwbeagles Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW, TX Posts 15,353 Points 2,035	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact I also have to say...that the two men who went after him...did an amazing thing. The grey haired man was kinda scary...I wouldn't want him after ME...he seems to be a very capable determined individual. Gina H. dog.community Moderator "I'll sleep when I'm dead, I said!"-The Cure
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• 02-05-2008 12:19 PM

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  scrubsfiend Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW area Posts 694 Points 180

  Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact rwbeagles: his comments on sperm being found in her body lead me to believe he did something more to her than kiss her. I cannot believe how little he cared and how centered on himself he was... That car they rigged up was sweet. Anyone have the odds on this whole thing being a movie soon? Sad. I thought he admitted they had sex.  I read something on CNN where he said they did; she wanted to go watch the sharks so they went to the beach and had sex while they were there.  Then she was shaking, etc. etc....   It's totally going to be made into a movie.  Just give it some time. Amy "A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog" - Charles Doran Democracy is... the conviction that there are extraordinary possibilities in ordinary people. - Harry Emerson Fosdick

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• 02-05-2008 12:22 PM

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  rwbeagles Joined on 09-10-2007 DFW, TX Posts 15,353 Points 2,035

  Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact he denied sex all on camera interviews (those he knew about lol). On those tapes...it was hard to make out...it sounded like he said they were kissing and she started shaking... IMO he raped her while she was out,  why do I think that?? he made the one comment all guilty rapists make..."she wanted it...she totally wanted it"...that is not something someone who has consentual sex says under these circumstances, IMO. Gina H. dog.community Moderator "I'll sleep when I'm dead, I said!"-The Cure

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• 02-05-2008 4:18 PM

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  luv_my_3_labs Joined on 09-10-2007 New York Posts 813 Points 45	Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact I saw it and was repulsed.  I don't have any daughters but if I did, she would have watched it.  Spring break gals, have fun to a limit and have a buddy system. [/i] Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant----unknown
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• 02-05-2008 5:54 PM

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  IrishSetterGrl Joined on 05-19-2007 Posts 719 Points 110

  Re: Did anyone watch that 20/20 on Holloway? Reply Contact I watched that. It made me sooo sad and angry at that guy - what an incredibly sick person. I can't believe he talked about poor Natalee the way he did and showed absolutely no remorse or emotion. I just don't know what is wrong with some people. ~ISGrl Cadie - 8.5 yr/o Irish Setter Riley - 1.5 yr/o Irish Setter I love my shelter dog. Adoption IS the BEST option! =)

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