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  • 11-13-2007 2:54 PM

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    looking for Housetraining advice

    My puppy is 7 weeks old Golden Retriever. I brought him home 3 days ago. I am trying to housetrain him with no success. First day he peed on the carpet and since then he only wants to go on the carpet, any carpet! I've taken him outside as soon as I suspected he needed to go. But he won't do it outside! Instead he patiently waits till we get in and goes on the carpet right away! I think he controls his necessity pretty well. He's done this trick with me several times. Please, help! Any advice would be appreciated!

    By the way he is smart little fellow. He learnt to "sit" in 1 day.

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  • 11-13-2007 4:24 PM In reply to 1st timer

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    Re: looking for Housetraining advice

     Three days is not a long time and he is so young!

    Here's what I did.  I kept her in a small area at first.  My kitchen mostly.  I bought potty pads, and every time that I caught Sophie going or getting ready to go, I would grab her up and put her on the potty pad.  And I stressed over and over, don't go potty on the floor, go potty on the potty pads.  And when she did go, I clapped and praised her and gave her treats.  I kept praising her about that one time, then if she messed up, I took my attention away from her and just said, you know you are supposed to go potty on the potty pads.  Then after a time, I would say it was over a month, I could move the potty pads closer to the door, until they were finally out the door.  But she still uses them if the weather is bad, or if I am at work. 

    For me, it was a long, frustrating process, but now she is good.


     I had hardwood floors with this expensive rug and padding in my living room and she acted like that was one huge potty pad!  So it had to be rolled up and taken away to the dump.  And even though she just turned one year old, I don't know if I trust her enough to go buy another expensive rug for the living room yet. 

    Good Luck!  There is also crate training, which I didn't do, but maybe someone else could explain it to you.

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  • 11-15-2007 3:09 PM In reply to 1st timer

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    Does he have a crate? That's really the best way to train a puppy. If he's not in a crate, you need to keep your eye on him 100% of the time.

    This is not a trick. He's not playing with you. He simply doesn't know any better. Smile

    Seven weeks old is too young to be away from his mother and it's far too soon to expect him to be potty trained. Tell us more about what's going on with him. Where is he sleeping? How long do you have him outside? What is his day like?

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  • 11-15-2007 3:13 PM In reply to FourIsCompany

    Re: looking for Housetraining advice

    It's very unlikely that at the age of 7 weeks he knows "inside" and "outside" and is going inside because it's a trick.  Far more likely that he got used to the texture of the carpet the first time or two that he went, and now doesn't know that he's supposed to be going outside, which feels totally different under his paws.

    He will get it, but not in 3 days.  It will probably take another 6-8 weeks to reliably housetrain him.   

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  • 11-20-2007 10:21 AM In reply to 1st timer

    Re: looking for Housetraining advice

     Hi, and welcome to the forum.  I sent you a PM with my class handout on house-training.  Big Smile

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  • 11-21-2007 11:57 AM In reply to Benedict

    Re: looking for Housetraining advice

    Benedict:
    Far more likely that he got used to the texture of the carpet the first time or two that he went, and now doesn't know that he's supposed to be going outside, which feels totally different under his paws.

     

    That is exactly right.  He is actually stimulated to go by the surface under his feet.  He also waits for that surface before going.  It's not his fault.  I think you accidentally "taught" him to do this!

    What I do is, when i bring a pup home, i take him STRAIGHT outside, immediately!!  I don't even put the pup down in the house if possible. he doesn't come in until he has been to the toilet outside.  I try to fix that in his memory with a yummy treat and lots of praise as soon as he has been.  I also say "go squat" as he is going.  Soon he will associate the word with toileting.

    Do a forum search on "crate training".  This is really really common and straightforward to fix.  There are loads of tips on here.

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  • 12-01-2007 9:28 PM In reply to Chuffy

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    Re: looking for Housetraining advice

    So this might be a little bit weird, but what about getting a nice patch of leftover carpet and leaving it outside in wherever you want his "potty spot" to be?

    I had some leftover carpet scraps outside that I was using as a temporary door mat and for unknown reasons Rascal really enjoyed peeing on them. And he's 100% housebroken to carpeting (in my house). Maybe something similar would help your pup transition? Eventually of course you could take the carpet away, but it might be a decent stop-gap measure.

    Also don't forget the enzymatic cleaner to get the pee smell out of your floors :) 

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  • 12-14-2007 6:10 PM In reply to 1st timer

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    Keep doing what you're doing he should eventually go outside.  Clean the areas he's peed w/ vinegar and water, this helps cover the smell and dogs don't like it.  Also, when you put him outside, tell him "go potty!" and don't bring him in until he does.  If he doesn't after a long time, and goes in the carpet, tell him "NO!", take him back outside "go potty!"  If you can't be out there while you're waiting for him to go, buy a chain and put him out on that.  Eventually he'll go outside.  DO NOT, buy those puppy pads, that will just make him keep peeing inside, you want him to do his business outside!  I bought those pads, because Misty kept having accidents, but they turned around and eventually worked against me.  She wouldn't go outside, she'd come back in and go on the pads, or next to them.  Finally, I got rid of them all together, and so far so good, I haven't had any problems w/ her since!  She's now 6mos. old!  He's still very young, so you'll need to watch him like a HAWK!  That's the only way to catch him...hurry, pick him up, take him outside..."Go Potty!"  When he eventually goes potty outside (don't give treats), just give him lots of praise, telling him "good potty!" "good boy!"  Keep it up, it will take time.  Good Luck!

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  • 12-15-2007 3:47 PM In reply to Janet808

    Re: looking for Housetraining advice

    there are a million different 'ways' to train them and it can become quite confusing.

    "texture" is very important and so is habit.  Leash him to you ... literally keep track of him every single second.  Because everything being said about 'habit' is SO true. 

    all it takes is one time for him to "go" inside and get away with it and he carries that memory of "I did it here before and it was OK" for a long long time.

    Don't yell or be angry when he fails -- all that will teach him is to go inside and NOT GET CAUGHT!! *smile*.  Truly ... it 'teaches' something but not what we want it to.

    I tend not to stay outside for marathons .... that tends to just encourage them to take forever (because when they 'go' you GO INSIDE and playtime is over!! NOT what they want!). 

    But rather -- I keep the trips outside very very short (like a minute or two, not more) and if he doesn't 'go' then I return inside but watch him like a hawk. 

    Keep a towel in your belt ... if he begins to 'go' pick him up, put the towel under him and RACE outside.  It's actually a great training opportunity.

    If he has an accident in the house, go put him in his crate (no scolding in the crate).  Go clean up the mess (don't let him see you).  But take those dirty paper towels that are soiled and put them OUTSIDE. 

    *Then* go get him on leash and take him right back out there.  Yep, that's yours - I *moved* it here!!.

    That gives him the idea that you want that stuff in a special place. OUT side.

    Make sure when you take him out to do his business that you keep him on one kind of surface.  Don't just wander around outside.  go that ONE place you want him to go (grass or whatever).  Grass can be tough -- because it can be scratchy and tickley to a pup, but persevere. 


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  • 03-26-2008 4:49 PM In reply to 1st timer

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    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." (Pratchett, Jingo)

    "I used to look at [my dog] Smokey and think, 'If you were a little smarter you could tell me what you were thinking,' and he'd look at me like he was saying, 'If you were a little smarter, I wouldn't have to.'" - Fred Jungclaus
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  • 03-26-2008 5:00 PM In reply to calliecritturs

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    edit - didn't realise post was so old! 

    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." (Pratchett, Jingo)

    "I used to look at [my dog] Smokey and think, 'If you were a little smarter you could tell me what you were thinking,' and he'd look at me like he was saying, 'If you were a little smarter, I wouldn't have to.'" - Fred Jungclaus
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