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Switch to Evo?

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  • 03-06-2006 10:23 AM

    • jamcony
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    Switch to Evo?

    I am thinking about either switching or rotating my 9 month old Portuguese Water Dog to Evo. She is 38 lbs and and will be a medium sized dog at maturity. She is now on Innova Puppy. I supplement her dry food with Nature's Variety raw frozen so she is getting enough protein. My concern is that I don't know if she needs the grains in the regualr Innova and thought about just giving her the Evo and the raw frozen as a diet.
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  • 03-06-2006 10:56 AM In reply to jamcony

    • sooner
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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    Personally, I wouldn#%92t feed it to any dog less than two years of age. I#%92ve e-mailed Natura and they say that the protein level isn#%92t appropriate for puppies with an adult weight of over 60 lbs. I know that PWDs get to be around 50, so that is your decision to make, but also I#%92ve seen it pointed out that the calcium level of EVO is almost double the safe amount for a growing puppy.
     
    If you are wanting to feed grain-free to a puppy, I think that Timberwolf's Wild & Natural is a much better choice.
     
    Wild & Natural
    Protein: 36%
    Fat: 18%
    Fiber: 2.5%
    Moisture: 9%
    ASH: 5%
    Kcal/kg: 3,980
    OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS: 3.4%
    OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: 1.2%
    CALCIUM: 1.4%
    PHOSPHOROUS: 1.1
    VITAMIN A: 22,000 IU/KG
    VITAMIN D: 1,200 IU/KG
    VITAMIN E: 350 IU/KG
    COPPER: 16mg/KG
     
     
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  • 03-06-2006 11:08 AM In reply to jamcony

    • glenmar
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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    Whats medium tho?  natura defines ANY dog who will be 50 lbs or larger as an adult as a large breed.  And I agree with Kelly.....two years is my minimum to start Evo
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  • 03-06-2006 5:28 PM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    There is a huge discussion in the old forum about the potato content in Evo being potentially harmful, just something to think about... 
    I didn't realize about the calcium content though, that might explain why my pups (both under 14 months) were producing fecal matter that after about two weeks would turn white and disenigrate....maybe not though? 
    Eithier way they didn't act like they were getting enough food they were always hungry acting and stopped eating their breakfast and I fed Evo for the past 6+ months. 
    Needless to say I am in the process of switching them over to a different food...I just hope they will start eating twice a day again! 

    Good luck!
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  • 03-07-2006 4:40 PM In reply to jamcony

    RE: Switch to Evo?

    I have been switching over to EVO too because of the high calorie content.   Scout needs about 1100 calories PER meal to maintain his weight.  He has the fastest metabolism of any dog I've ever met.  To put this into perspective. His ideal weight is between 70-75. His old food is eagle and he needed between 6-7 cups of food a day.  With evo he would only need between 4 and 4.5.  I was hoping to cut down on the amount of kibble he needs to eat in one meal...but alas that is not to happen.
    He was fine during the switchover, but now that we're full evo, he WILL NOT eat it.  I put it down and he stares at it and then looks at me and then stare at it and then looks at me.  To give you perspective on how much he hates it:  I mixed in wet food(YUM), he dove in and grabs a mouthful and proceeded to lick off all the deliciousness(ie the canned food) and spit out perfectly clean evo bits onto the kitchen floor.  The stinker!  I planned on switching to raw anyways.  The evo was going to be my backup plan for traveling/lazy days....But I've found a few other alternatives....Oh well!


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  • 03-07-2006 5:47 PM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    Ewin have you looked into Timberwolf organics? They do a formula called wild n natural,which is along the same lines as EVO,but better IMO,different protein source too,i think. A member here called Sharon(myorganicpets) sells it,hopefully she will see this post and give you her contact details,as i've lost them [&:]
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  • 03-08-2006 2:51 AM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    Timberwolf Organics (TO) Wild & Natural also has chicken as a protein source but no turkey, and salmon instead of herring.

    I just started feeding it yesterday. The dogs will eat it, but they vastly prefer Innova Evo. Not sure whether it's got to do with the smell or taste. They do like TO Ocean Blue though, but again Evo is still number one for them. FWIW, I can't really smell the Wild & Natural, even the regular Innova smells stronger to me.

    BTW, does anyone know where the expiry date on the small bag is? This is the old packaging.
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  • 03-08-2006 9:04 AM In reply to jamcony

    RE: Switch to Evo?

    That's odd. My dogs won't touch EVO, but they love TO wildn natural. I would never feed EVO. The calcium is too high, the ash content is through the roof, and why does it have both turkey and chicken in it? you can now order TO from Petfood direct.
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  • 03-08-2006 10:28 AM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    I don't know why Evo has chicken & turkey, but the regular Innova has both too.
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  • 03-09-2006 6:23 PM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    When I got Tara from the Humane Society, they sent me home with a bag of Science Diet puppy. She was approximately 3 months old. She made big poops and had gas, and the ingredients were disgusting to me (I'm on the Neanderthin diet - no grains, no processed foods at all). I think it was 2 days later, after lots of reading on the internet, I went to the grocery store and bought her real food. Ground beef, ground turkey, eggs, chopped broccoli. I didn't bother phasing her off the packaged food, just started cooking for her right away. She was severely underweight with every rib showing and her hip bones sticking out, so I fed her as much as she'd eat, 3 times a day. She went from 10lbs the day I got her to 12lbs in 7 days, with better and smaller poops and no gas. However, I have a tiny refrigerator/freezer, and limited time, so I continued searching the internet for a kibble that seemed healthy to me: I found Innova Evo.
     
    She was a bit over 4 months when I started phasing Evo into her homecooked. She now gets Evo for breakfast and dinner, and 2-3 Evo cookies for lunch. I add a raw chicken neck to her breakfast every day except Saturday when she gets a can of sardines packed in water (no salt added). She also gets bites of any fruit I'm eating (apple, pear, banana, cherries, blueberries, strawberries, etc), and the occasional egg or piece of chicken meat or beef.
     
    Tara has the softest shiniest dog coat I've ever seen - everyone comments on it. She recovered from being spayed in about 36 hours (boy, was it hard to make her "rest" for 10 days!), makes very little poop, and has NO gas. I'd rather be feeding her raw/homecooked, but Evo seems to be fine for her. The only ingredient I don't like in Evo is the potatoes - I suppose they needed something in it to make it take a kibble shape, and it isn't a grain, anyway.
     
    So that's my Evo story, for what it's worth :) Check out Tara's Dogster page at [linkhttp://www.dogster.com/?275276]http://www.dogster.com/?275276[/link] and leave her a bone! *grin*
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  • 03-09-2006 8:44 PM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    I raised  a Vizsla puppy on EVO with excellent results.  I think that for a kibble it is a nice food.  Now I feed 100% raw and do EVO when I am runnign low or they are with their trainer/handler.

    - jodi
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  • 03-10-2006 9:21 PM In reply to jamcony

    RE: Switch to Evo?

    BTW, does anyone know where the expiry date on the small bag is? This is the old packaging.

     
    There is no sell by date on the old packaging. Just like there are no feeding instructions either. That's why it's on sale so cheap, to clear it out for the new stuff. I'm assuming once it's all gone they will no longer be selling 3.3 lb bags. It will all be the newer bags and 4lbs will be the smallest size bag.
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  • 03-10-2006 9:37 PM In reply to jamcony

    RE: Switch to Evo?

    Ewin, You may want to consider the Timberwolf Lamb Barley & Apple formula as well as the Wild 'n Natural Dry.   It has 3920 Kcal/kg, the Wild 'n Dry has 3980.
     All of the Timberwolf formulas are carefully balanced so they provide complete nutrition for all life stages. Some are specifically designed to be fed w/raw or cooked meats added , especially if feeding growing dogs, puppies or lactating dogs.
     
    The recommended feeding amounts are :
     
    Small : 15-30 lbs     3/4 c - 1 3/4 c
    Med:   31-50 lbs     1 1/4 c - 2 3/4 c
    Lg:      51-80 lbs     2 c - 4 1/4 c
    Ex Lg: 81-100 lbs   3 1/4 c - 5 1/4 c
     
    This seems like what you're looking for. High calorie count, low calcium and  fairly small daily feeding amount.
     
    You must remember also that Timberwolf uses the highest percentage of meat proteins of just about any kibble. There is 1/2 of meat meal for every lb of kibble.  It is SOOO nutrient dense that you need to feed relatively small amounts.
     
    Let me know if you have any questions. 
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  • 03-12-2006 9:18 AM In reply to jamcony

    • lena
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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    Glenda, I have just switched to Evo and now I'm worried because Sweet Pea is just over a year. Since I have just bought a big bag, would it be okay to get another big bag of Innova and mix them together?
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  • 03-14-2006 6:42 PM In reply to jamcony

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    RE: Switch to Evo?

    I guess this kind of goes with the thread I just posted asking for any book recommendations on dog food. I have no idea what to look for or not look for in dog food. I also don't know anything about the pet food industry and what's REALLY in pet food. I'd like to know more.
     
    I was questioning whether or not to switch Ash to Evo too. I have no clue because I don't know what ingredients to look for or what benefits her and what doesn't.
    Sylvia


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