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Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

Last post 11-08-2009 8:45 PM by willowchow. 13 replies.
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  • 11-03-2009 8:26 PM

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    Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    Hey guys. Quick update, then we'll get to that question...

    Kovu's doing fine. His breathing is pretty much back to normal, and he's eating & drinking normally.

    Cherokee's pain has been getting steadily worse. Last night she couldn't stand up on her own, and at about 4 o'clock this morning I woke up to her screaming in pain. She was clearly just in a painful position but she couldn't get herself out of it. That was really hard..at that point I really thought I'd be taking her to be PTS today... But after I got all her pain meds in her she relaxed and went back to sleep...so I followed suit, and today she seems halfway-okay again.

    My vet is prescribing gabapentin...which I'd never heard of before. I've been looking it up and I know it's a seizure drug that's sometimes prescribed for pain.. Just curious if anyone has any experience with it? I'm trying to figure out if it's likely to help much.. She wanted me to up the tramadol and rimadyl before we tried it though..which I've done, and it's not helping enough.

    I just can't imagine having her PTS when her only issue is pain in her shoulder. I really thought she'd be sicker and having breathing trouble and stuff and not so...Cherokee...when we got to this point. So fingers crossed the gaba-whatsit does some good...
    Chelsea &
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  • 11-03-2009 8:48 PM In reply to chelsea_b

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    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    Never heard of it, Chelsea. I was wondering about you guys this morning (hugs)
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  • 11-03-2009 8:55 PM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    Pain is pain Chelsea -- And I don't mean that to sound trite.  I will never *ever* forget the night Ms. Socks came in from the back yard -- the only word I can use to describe her was "grey".  (a red/white boxer pit mix).  It took her a LONG time to come in ... I *KNEW* something was wrong.

    She took one look at her dish ... and walked away.  WHOA -- this was a dog who was a food vacuum.  But when she looked in her dish -- she looked for a long minute and literally shook her head and walked away.

    Sometimes cancer - like bone cancer -- it hurts ALL the time and it worsens.  Sometimes cancer can 'burst' or erupt -- and that's what happened to Ms. Socks.  Apparently a nodule burst when she was outside -- and she literally decided THEN not to eat.  Dogs do, upon occasion, try to suicide.  And I knew then, she'd given me my answer.

    She looked fine.  But to her, that pain was **TOO** much. 

    The difficult thing for you is that Cherokee is so bonded to you.  That means Cherokee will try to deny herself to not cause *you* pain.  So you'll have to watch her carefully. 

    I'm having to make the same call with Kee Shu right now -- and it's not fun.  But no, hon -- often you get nothing other than knowing *that* dog and knowing when they are in pain ALL the time then it's time to help them out.  Pain, in itself, is very wearing.  It becomes a haze that colors everything. 


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  • 11-03-2009 9:08 PM In reply to calliecritturs

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    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    I had a relative who, years ago, had cancer in the bone. Without going into detail, I will never forget what he said about his pain. Humans don't have the same options we do with pets, making it somewhat more awful..though I suppose they can at least verbalize what they're going through.

     

    I do hope the new pain med makes her more comfortable so that you have more time together. The clinic I work at hasn't used that drug for pain, that I am aware of, so I've no experiences to offer on that one.

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  • 11-03-2009 9:11 PM In reply to calliecritturs

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    I'm sorry she's in so much pain.  I hope the new medication works better for her. 

     

     

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  • 11-03-2009 9:38 PM In reply to willowchow

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    We used it for Bevo after an MRI.  He was very painful, & couldn't get up on his own.  Gabapentin did a very good job of keeping him comfortable while he was recovering.  If he was to need it again, I'd have no issues using it.

    Hugs to you & Cherokee.

    Amanda

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  • 11-03-2009 9:43 PM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

     My life partner is using it to help control her TMJ.  It helps her to fall asleep and stay asleep so her body can better repair the damage from grinding her teeth and clenching her jaw.  I have never hear of it's veterinary use.

    She's been using it for a long time with no side effects.  If uping her current meds don't make a difference in the next day or two........what can it hurt to try this one?

    I'm sorry your dealing with this.  I've been there and it sucks. 

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  • 11-03-2009 10:08 PM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

     Gabapentin (trade name Neurontin) is used for nerve pain, so it acts differently than some other drugs.  Hope it works.

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  • 11-04-2009 7:30 AM In reply to spiritdogs

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    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    Kobi was prescribed Gabapentin. He had a Nerve Sheath tumor. The vet explained it was typically used for dogs with seizures but also had effectiveness in treating pain when used in conjunction with other pain med. For Kobi it was tramadol. The use of Gabapentin allows for a lower dose of other pain meds. As the vet explained Gabapentin is a short acting, lasting only a few hours (2 - 4). It targets the nerve ending resulting in a 'tingling' sensation. Kobi took the medication x2/day. I tried to time it so it corresponded with his walks. It did seem to help although it is always difficult to measure pain level in dogs. Using an antacid can reduce it's effectiveness.

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  • 11-08-2009 2:24 AM In reply to denise m

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    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    So it seems like it was just a bad night or two. She's been doing pretty good the past few days. Not sure if the gabapentin helps, but I'm giving it anyway..

    Oh, and for the record..Cherokee doesn't have bone cancer, so it's not that same type of pain as I understand it. She's got a soft tissue sarcoma near (or possibly at this point attached to) her shoulder blade. Just wanted to clarify that, because I know that bone cancer is some pretty severe pain, and Cherokee's doesn't usually seem that bad.

    Amanda and Denise, do either of you know what sort of dose Bevo and Kobi were on? Cherokee's on 100 mg once or twice a day right now.. She's like 63 pounds. I know there's a pretty wide dose range, so just curious what your guys took. Looks like my vet's going for 3-4 mg/kg. She said to start with once a day and go to twice if I needed to...

    Thanks everyone!
    Chelsea &
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  • 11-08-2009 9:35 AM In reply to chelsea_b

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    I am glad Cherokee seems to be feeling better. You are such a good momma for her :)

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  • 11-08-2009 10:21 AM In reply to shamrockmommy

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    I'm glad that she's more comfortable.

    Bevo was on 150mg twice a day.  He's around 75 pounds, so he was getting around 4.5mg/kg.

    Amanda

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  • 11-08-2009 7:36 PM In reply to BEVOLASVEGAS

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

     I'm so glad she's feeling better. Chelsea, I believe you'll know when it's time to help her over the Bridge and will do what's best for her because you have always taken such good care of her; {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}.

    Janice
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  • 11-08-2009 8:45 PM In reply to jessies_mom

    Re: Has anyone used Gabapentin? (Chelsea)

    Glad Cherokee is doing better!!

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