Dogs vs. Turtles...the war continues

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    That'd be me if the dogs weren't around. But let them look like a threat to my dogs??? Suddenly I'm Rambo-Mom. LOL ----

    and Marlania - I live in Floor-daaa -- land of "If your pet becomes inconvenient, gee it's warm here, just let it loose!" -- the iguana in my yard was massive -- the body itself was as big as a big man's arm elbow to fingertips. He probably weighed maybe 20 pounds. But he looked just like a piece of wood with lichen and fungus on it -- *grin* he blended in perfectly. Saw him in the driveway as we drove in one night. He then proceeded to scare the spit out of my dogs who 'cornered' him under the car. Had to haul them in the house so THEY didn't get bitten. My ex went after him with a broom to try to discourage him (one of those huge long floor brooms??). Iguana grabbed the end of it and ripped it right out of my husband's hands. *ME*?? I went in the house. Thankfully never seen again. But we see all SORTS of weirdo animals

    There's actually a HUGE problem down in Miami of pythons that have just been turned loose -- and they just get bigger and bigger and bigger. They found one in Palm Bay a few years ago under a house (Florida house built on concrete pilings with siding to the ground) -- danged snake was about 3" in circumference and about 20 feet long. Everyone in the neighborhood thot it was funny that pets kept disappearing -- *sigh* That would be ME moving away! but they've had all sorts of legislation on the ballots the last two elections about trying to deal with the feral python issue. How weird is that?
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    Speaking of snakes, Brett spooked one in the dog yard this morning. All I heard was "Get your gun!" so I assumed that meant a snake was nearby. We both searched for a good long while but never found it. I have an oak three that throws leaves everywhere, and my house is on pillars so when you combine all of that, it's an excellent place for a snake to disappear. I asked Brett what kind of snake we were looking for. Apparently we are looking for an anaconda given his exaggerated description. I asked 3 simple things: what's the shape of the head, what's its color (belly color too), and how big was it. He said it was about 10 different colors, he didn't see its head, and it was 6 feet long. I'm like, okay, never mind, I'll do this myself. You just stand there looking for that polka-dotted monstrosity. LOL Now, in his defense, we do have speckled king snakes here, although I've not seen one personally. Typically, our yard gets water moccasins (TONS of them), mud snakes, rat snakes, blue runners, ribbon and garter snakes, and the occasional copperhead (only 2 of those listed are venomous, but I'm not playing around with these things). I learned to identify local snakes when I was a kid and my dad ran over one with the lawn mower and its head hit me in the leg. Traumatizing, indeed.
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    Ok that last line gave me a chuckle- we have a resident black snake, I call her Ethel. Ethel is currently active in a few areas and Bugsy is on it. Goofy dog is bound get bit by her soon, likely not the first time. As it is, I am thankful that the local black bear sightings have been 30 miles north of here. Bugsy has some deep seeded need to chase/attack/ hunt all things regardless of danger factor, I don't really want him getting into a scrap with a bear
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    I'm pretty sure Junior will take off after anything. He dug a hole that was deep enough to expose the shed's concrete foundation because he was hot on the trail of something...who know what...probably an ant knowing him.
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    kpwlee
    , I call her Ethel.
    THANKS Karen - now I'm going to have Ray Stevens "The Streak" locked in my head all afternoon. "Looit that lookit that .... Oh yes they call him The Streak! ... Hey ETHEL ... DON'T LOOK ETHEL!!! ... Too late .. she already looked! ... Git chur clothes back on ETHEL!!!" Karen -- I'm emotionally incapable of naming a snake. I can name anything else ... but no snakes and no bats. Turtles? Fur shure!! Even Dr. Seuss named Yertile the Turtle ...
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    calliecritturs
    I'm emotionally incapable of naming a snake

     

    We named all the rattlesnakes we used in snake avoidance training.  We called them all B.A.  Bad Attitude. :)   Actually most of them didn't have bad attitudes as they would have rather been anywhere else and mostly wanted to get away from us and the dogs.  The snake wranglers had to work hard to keep them in their designated area. 

    Marlania, your story about the snake head hitting you in the leg reminded me of the time a young Lab pup I owned came inside and was obviously holding something in his mouth.  I was working on training "leave it" and offered him a tasty treat in exchange for whatever he had.  He dropped a rattlesnake head in my hand.  When I woke up...

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    JackieG
    When I woke up...
    That would be "Nightmare on My Street" for me! *hesitant smile*
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    JackieG
      He dropped a rattlesnake head in my hand.  When I woke up...

    Oh my God . . . I would've died!  And I'm sorry, but surely someone doesn't go through childhood hoping to be a "snake wrangler" when he grows up!  What kind of career choice is THAT?!  Surprise

    I don't know why I keep reading the updates on this thread.  All it's doing is giving me the heebee geebies!  Glutton for punishment, I guess!

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    tacran
    And I'm sorry, but surely someone doesn't go through childhood hoping to be a "snake wrangler" when he grows up!  What kind of career choice is THAT?!  Surprise

     

    ROFLMBO!!!  I've got tears streaming down my face from laughing so hard.  It's a career with few job openings to be honest.  Seriously, mostly teenage boys or girls who were interested in earning some money.  They sat on an upturned bucket and had a long snake pole and gently moved the snake back into it's spot if it tried to escape the crazy humans.  The snakes had been milked of their venom and defanged. There was always an adult near each snake just in case. I think nowadays most snake avoidance trainers use rat snakes to avoid any chance of a dog or person getting even a little bit of venom from a bite.  Rat snakes look a lot like rattlers and they will coil and strike like one too. 

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    JackieG
    tacran
    And I'm sorry, but surely someone doesn't go through childhood hoping to be a "snake wrangler" when he grows up!  What kind of career choice is THAT?!  Surprise
    mostly teenage boys or girls who were interested in earning some money. 

    Many of my friends who were raised in this part of Oregon talk about the "horrible" summer jobs they had as teenagers picking berries (the Willamette Valley = USA berry capital).  The next time I hear one of them talking about how grueling that job was, I'm going to tell them they should be glad they weren't job-hunting teenagers in your area, Jackie! 

    I'm glad it was just a temp job for teens with above-average tolerance (or courage).  I was thinking it was a real profession (like cattle wrangler), and I thought, "It would be awful to take those aptitude tests we took in middle school and find out that's the career path that best suited your skill set!"

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    tacran
    I'm glad it was just a temp job for teens with above-average tolerance (or courage).  I was thinking it was a real profession (like cattle wrangler), and I thought, "It would be awful to take those aptitude tests we took in middle school and find out that's the career path that best suited your skill set!"
    I dunno, Tracy -- down here there are people who make their living as "gator hunters" -- mostly at night in boats fitted with a spotlight -- *shudder*. Not me.
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    JackieG
    Marlania, your story about the snake head hitting you in the leg reminded me of the time a young Lab pup I owned came inside and was obviously holding something in his mouth.  I was working on training "leave it" and offered him a tasty treat in exchange for whatever he had.  He dropped a rattlesnake head in my hand.  When I woke up...
    Where'd he find just a head? lol
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    calliecritturs
    I dunno, Tracy -- down here there are people who make their living as "gator hunters" -- mostly at night in boats fitted with a spotlight
    This is common where I live, although not as many people do this as a living anymore. It may supplement their income, but for some, it's just another form of hunting. My grandpa hunted alligators for sport. In fact, before the wildlife agency regulated gators, he raised them in what is now my back yard. He had several large alligator pits. These were long gone before I was born, but I've seen pictures of it, and it cracks me up to think that huge alligators called my yard home. I teach Louisiana history, and sometimes I show my kids a video some documentary guy filmed of my grandpa and his friends hunting in the 1980s. My grandpa had macular degeneration, so he lost most of his vision and was blind by the time he died at 91. Anyway, by the 80s, most of his eye sight was gone, and my kids knew this because I always told them crazy stories about him. It took a few seconds to realize that my mostly-blind grandpa was driving the boat, and they were stunned when he shot the gun and killed the gator. My kids always thought he was hardcore and wanted to meet him. In actuality, he was just sweet little old man who experienced a lot in his life. He did other interesting stuff too, like the time he killed a water moccasin with a hand ax in his cucumber patch because he smelled it. Don't ask---I can't explain it. He just "knew" it was there lol. Another time, I found him covered in blood (his own...he had heart problems, so he bled easily) when I came home from work. So I'm freaking out trying to find out what the hell happened, and he's acting like everything is fine. The man had been at war with whatever was eating the tomatoes in his garden, and he had set out his old traps (he used to trap mink, muskrats, etc.) to catch whatever it was. Well, it turns out possums were eating the tomatoes, and he caught them. So I thought, OMG, he got mutilated by a possum, but no, he just got caught by the trap. So I asked him if the possums was still in the trap, and he looked at me like I was an idiot. Turns out he took them out of the traps, beat them against a cypress tree to make sure they were dead (because, you know, he couldn't see, and they could have been playing possum lol), and tossed them into the canal at the back of the property for the alligators to eat. He was 90 at this point, so I called my dad to tell him he needed to come check on HIS dad because he was beating possums against trees.
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    marlania
    JackieG
    Marlania, your story about the snake head hitting you in the leg reminded me of the time a young Lab pup I owned came inside and was obviously holding something in his mouth.  I was working on training "leave it" and offered him a tasty treat in exchange for whatever he had.  He dropped a rattlesnake head in my hand.  When I woke up...
    Where'd he find just a head? lol

     

    I went outside and found the remains of a rattlesnake, missing it's head,  under my honeysuckle.  My best guess is a cat killed it.  It was too fresh to have been killed with the weedeater if I remember correctly.  I have often wondered what would have happened if that pup would have chewed on or swallowed the head. Needless to say, that taught me to be more careful about what the dogs offer up when I say leave it. lol