Feeding canned salmon with bones in it........

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    Feeding canned salmon with bones in it........

    Posted this question inside of another thread, only I can't remember which one.

    So, figured I'd ask it again.

    I've been feeding my dogs canned salmon two or three times a week, the kind either from Walmart or Vitamin Cottage, it does contain bones. Are these bones harmful to them?

    I've been doing this for well over 2yrs and have never had an issue.....but I read somewhere that fish bones were not good for them.

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    The bones in canned salmon are cooked to a very soft and mushy consistency.    They're not a problem.

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     Both my guys have been getting canned salmon with bones daily as part of their homecooked diet and they're doing great.  The only bones I really notice when I dish it up are those little round ones (vertebrae I think?) and they crumble as I stir the salmon in with the veggies and rice they get.  Their diet was developed by a veterinary nutritionist and she noted no problems with it.  She had to factor in the calcium content when balancing all the vitamins, minerals and nutrients so I was glad I had a professional do that and I don't have to worry about the phosphorus/calcium ratio that I guess you have to be mindful of.

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    The bones in canned fish are pressure cooked and not harmful.  If you buy Merrick Wing-a-Ling you'll notice the same thing, only it's chicken wing bones. 

    You can do the same thing by crock potting poultry or fish for a long time.  Great for the cold months coming up!

    It think it was in Kate's (Benedict's) thread, "Silly Question" about feeding fish heads to her Ben. 

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    The only issue with canned salmon is that it tends to be very high in salt.  Check the label for sodium content.
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    Great....thanks!

    Yeah, I try to aim for the salmon with the least amount of sodium.

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    brookcove
    You can do the same thing by crock potting poultry or fish for a long time.

    Really?  How long approximately?  I feed mostly raw, but once in a while it would be nice to give them a nice warm meal, ya know?  As opposed to the frozen blocks of chicken and stuff they normally get.  If I threw chicken, rice and some veggies in the crockpot for the day, could I share with the dogs?  Hehe...it'd be nice to only have to cook once...

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    huskymom

    brookcove
    You can do the same thing by crock potting poultry or fish for a long time.

    Really?  How long approximately?  I feed mostly raw, but once in a while it would be nice to give them a nice warm meal, ya know?  As opposed to the frozen blocks of chicken and stuff they normally get.  If I threw chicken, rice and some veggies in the crockpot for the day, could I share with the dogs?  Hehe...it'd be nice to only have to cook once...

    Yes you can!  But, you probably wouldn't want to share.  I've tasted it and the marrow from the bones give it a kind of gamey taste, really weird.  Apparently I'm the only one who's bothered by it in my house though.  There's been several times Patrick has accidentally fed the kids  out of the crock pot if I don't leave specific instructions on dinner.  Now "dog chicken" is a frequent menu request.  I just do normal crockpot chicken without letting the bones soften for people though.  And Patrick says, "People dog chicken or dog dog chicken?"  before serving.  LOL!

    It takes about 24 hours, or possibly longer depending on your crockpot and how much you are doing.  Put just the chicken and enough water to cover it in the pot.  You can use a whole chicken or quarters or whatever you want.  Cook it 24 hours, watching the water level.  Once teh bones are just about mushy (small ones will crumble but big ones will still resist crushing), add the rice and veggie and cook another eight hours. 

    Turkey works too but you have to cook it a LOT longer - another 24 hours usually.  There's no waste of turkey at our house.  I take the carcass and make broth for us, then put the scraps and bones in a pot with a couple breast of chicken and cook for a couple days.  After that I add any leftovers that aren't eaten - veggies, stuffing, cranberries - last year they got a pumpkin pie because I accidentally made too much!

     

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     Too much pumpkin pie?  Bah...no such thing.

    So you could essentially make a roast chicken or turkey or whatever and then throw the rest in the crock pot?  Am I understanding that right?  The faster roasting process won't 'ruin' the bones?  I never get around to making real soup out of the turkey carcass for us, the best I get is some weak broth to bait the dogs water for runs occasionally.

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    Gee Salmon in my neck of the woods is not cheap.....can't imagine how much I would need to feed a Dane...lol!

    I love canned salmon...and guess what...I eat the bones myself. Well...unless a doggy is sitting near...then I share.

    I've also done the "crock pot stew" after sandra talked about it so much.  It did smell great while cooking and Bubblegum loved it. Will most likely start making it for Gibson in a short time. Right now I am still trying not to screw up his diet as a growing puppy...not wanting to add too much protein...calcium or whatever it is that sometimes causes problems with the big boys growing too fast.

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     Yup, just do whatever you need to to fit it all in - or don't worry about fitting it all in, just choose the smaller bones.  The stage they are in when roasted makes it harder to get to your goal, but not impossible.  Just be patient and enjoy the fragrance of turkey that will waft around your house for the next few days after Thanksgiving while you cook that carcass.

    this is only true of turkey.  Chicken takes about the same for some reason - smaller bones I guess. 

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     Chickie's in the pot!   Dogs are goin nutz!  They seem to sense that its for them...

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    Just a note on the high sodium content of canned fish? Rinse, rinse, rinse and then rinse some more. I'm sure that some of the salt in the brine that the fish is canned in does seep into the tissues, but with really careful rinsing, you'll get rid of most of it.
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     Added the rice, and I chickened out and put the bones through the food processor.  But their dinner should be done by the time I get home from Thanksgiving Dinner at my  mom's. 

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    Our dogs are getting chicken soup tonight too.  Smile  Someone brought a roast chicken over while I was recovering from the surgery, and I put the carcass in yesterday morning and then some potatoes, carrots, and apples last night.  It's ready and cooling now!  I dropped some eggs in while it was hot, too - about a dozen and a half because we need to get rid of them.  Our ducks are laying four eggs a day now!!